Google’s $199 phone to compete with the iPhone
By Yi-Wyn Yen and Michal Lev-Ram
The Google-powered cell phone is coming soon, and it will retail for $199, according to the Wall Street Journal.
The price of the new Google (GOOG) smart phone would put the device head-to-head with Apple’s $199 iPhone (AAPL). The Google phone, which features a touchscreen and is made by Taiwanese manufacturer HTC, faces some stiff competition. The iPhone 3G has generated significant interest among consumers for redefining touch-screen technology, popularizing mobile applications and significantly improving Web navigation on cell phones.
T-Mobile (DT), the first carrier that will run Google’s Android mobile software, will show off the new phone to analysts and reporters on Tuesday in Manhattan. It is expected to hit stores later this fall.
Representatives from Google, HTC and T-Mobile would not comment on the Journal’s report.
Google unveiled features of the Android operating system on an unidentified black HTC handset at a developers conference in London on Wednesday.
The HTC phone is just the first of many Google-powered phones, according to the search giant. For Google to reach its ultimate goal - driving mobile Internet use and, in turn, ads - it will need to get multiple devices in the hands of mainstream consumers. The price will also need to be right, given that companies like Palm and Samsung already offer entry-level smartphones for $100.
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As a “T” customer, was really looking forward to their releasing this phone. but what-the? Clunky pop-out manual keyboard instead of a virtual one? Crappy icon-based touch screen controls instead of intuitive built-in ones? After having the iPhone as a model for this long, I’d expect this phone to be at least on-par. Why release a 1.0 when your competiton is already at 2.0? I’m very disappointed.
For Travis D, Fremont CA
You wonder about folks hatred of AAPL; its the same as how you feel about MS
“APPL was not first to do touch, but they made it popular and cool enough for others to enter that market. Competition is good, I still want an iPhone (when they up storage), but wish Google success. I only hope MS based phones sales plunge even more.
”
Now let me use your quote for MS
“MS was not first to do windows UI, but they made it popular and cool enough to install on every desktop in the world.”
Jonathan, Chicago, Illinois : YOU are the one that is uninformed and making dumb comments. 3G NEVER costed extra, and still doesnt. What they did was re-classify it to be on a smartphone/pda plan like the rest of them devices. In fact you could have been on the $30 smartphone/pda plan even if your device was only capable of 2G. On the other side of the coin, you can get a 3G Nokia N95 with a full web browser, flash, java, etc. and still only pay $15/mo. Please get YOUR facts right, before attempting to correct someone else!
Great, now everyone can be reminded of their ugly yellow teeth everytime they make a phone call.
I don’t understand folks hatred of AAPL and saying the Google phone is so much better without even using it. Why hope iPhone collapses and fails now that Google is coming? You people do realize if it wasn’t for the iPhone you would not have the Google phone, Sprint Instinct, or upcoming RIM touch phone?! Anyone who buys an Android phone should thank Apple for pushing the limits and forcing other companies to be innovative. Like it or not, any ‘touch’ phone is a direct descendant of the iPhone. Just as most mp3 players are descendants of the iPod — for the reason that most mp3 players and touch smart phones looks eerily similar to Apple products.
APPL was not first to do touch, but they made it popular and cool enough for others to enter that market. Competition is good, I still want an iPhone (when they up storage), but wish Google success. I only hope MS based phones sales plunge even more.
It seems google has stabbed someone else in the back with this latest offering. Weren’t they just recently working with apple to integrate their products onto the iphone. Then they recently said android would be a cross-platform operating system for smartphones. WOW you not only stabbed apple in the back but every major cell-phone carrier out there. but you have now run into something you couldn’t overcome, blind apple fanboy loyalty and stupidity. It doesn’t matter how much better your products are as long as it doesn’t have the apple logo you will continue to get stupid comments like the one from stevep.
No rick, the data was plan was not marked up $10 extra per month. The price for 3G access had always been 30, but original iPhone users were paying $20/month for 2.5G access. During the time between the original iPhone started selling, and the 3G iPhone started selling, Blackberry users were paying $30/month for 3G access… so get informed before you make dumb comments like that.
In Response To Please Posted By googly town,
Adsense, gmail, Google Earth, Google Maps, YouTube,Gtalk, picasa, Blogger, Google Docs, and soon Chrome will likely be one of the leading web browsers.
Google is a web application company, not a ’search’ company.
In Response to all of the “Should have gone with a carrier that doesn’t suck” people, I’ve personally dealt with almost every major carrier in the US, ATT/Cingular, Verizon, Sprint, Virgin Mobile, et al. All of them have dead zone (ATT being the worst) - they all have their problems, but the one thing that I can say about T-Mobile is that they haven’t attempted to rip me off (things like mystery charges (service insurance, AND phone insurance… what is service insurance?), providing “unlimited” text messaging (which had a real limit of 3000 messages per month, then .25 per message over… thanks ATT/Cingular.)
I’ve been with T-Mobile for going on 3 years now, and I haven’t had nonsense charges, or artificial “unlimited”ness so far.
In closing, thank you Google and HTC for choosing the only decent cell company available in the United State (I know their Finnish) -
Now - bring me my Dream!
Does anyone ever use or compare with Nokia Communicator phones or E90? How does it compare with the i phones etc.?
I think its stupid that they compare it in price to the iPhone. The data plan was marked up $10 per month for the new 3g version, so its $240 more for 2 year service
does anybody know where a picture of the google phone is?
Will people wait 5 hours in line to buy one?
iphone or millionaire?
http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1125.html
There’s an old cliche very apropos for the gPhone, it’s ’stick to your knitting’ a lesson that Google hasn’t yet had a chance to learn, let them learn it the hard way, like all big companies eventually have to. Apple had to learn it, until they figured out what there knitting truly was.
The gPhone’s fail point will be a mixture of its open architecture, lack of control on hardware reference design, and inability to clearly position itself in an already overcrowded market.
Jack of all trades, master of none.
P-
Tiny screen, Bulky Phone, Tiny keyboard… Looks like a flop to me.
I don’t know about you guys, but being a T-Mobile customer I find it warming to finally see an innovative phone being released on T-Mobile. I mean look at T-Mobile’s line up: their flagship is the T-Mobile Wing…crap! I will be getting this HTC Dream..I think it will be a great phone. I don’t think anything can kill the iPhone so I am not even going to compare the 2. I just know it cnt be worst than Wing.
Google’s way late to the party on this one. What are they gonna do next, release a web browser? Oh wait…
Who wrote this article? Don’t you know that every article about any mp3 player or phone that comes out has to say “The next iPhone/iPod killer” in the title somewhere? It’s an established practice and you are messing with the whole balance of the world.
Wrong carrier/Provider selected!!! Should have selected Verizon or if possible AT&T.
In response to the previous poster out in Santa Clara T-Mobile and ATTWS have different networks. They both use GSM as opposed to CDMA technology but they have different networks. In the past in CA and NV, some of the gsm towers were shared by TMO and ATTWS.
First, some folks are complaining about the iPhone’s/AT&T’s service or dropped calls. Well, if the Android-driven HTC Dream is exclusively on T-Mobile, it’s not going to be any better than because it uses AT&T’s network.
Second, it’s good that HTC has a lot of experience in making phones, but in looking at the pictures of this phone, it looks bulky with the added keyboard. People don’t want bulkier, they want slimmer and faster! Thus, the HTC Dream will likely provide the same level of competition as Handsprings did to Palm Pilots. In other words, it will be the ugly stepsister of the iPhone.
If it works at all, it’ll be better than my IPhone.
I always was reluctant about Apple products until I tried the first product.. I got hooked. Apple is the best in almost everything they do by far.
this sucks the phone goes to the most horrific service provider first. as always all the cool phones go to the crap providers
Iphone should be worried.
The threat is not from Google itself, but from all the future 3rd-party application developers who are enabled by Google’s open platform…
When the Microsoft OS vs. linux open OS in the desktop world, the former wins - due to the hugh existing customers’ software install-base. However, in this case, the cell phones do not have install-base to speak of.
Wow, I’m surprised at all the backlash against Google coming out with a phone. Are you serious? You’re against the company that continually makes EVERYTHING more user-friendly? The company that has successfully challenges so many tech companies? I guess you’d rather support a company like Apple that insists on the hegemony of its soft and hardware? Personally I like a company that caters to my preferences.
You know what I’d like to see? A commercial with PC guy, Apple guy, and GOOGLE guy. He wouldn’t be slow and annoying like the PC, and he wouldn’t be a weiner of a pompous hipster like Apple. Just a regular dude, making technology better for everyone. And best of all, he doesn’t require you to identify yourself as a PC or Apple guy. Google guy is whatever guy you are.
Love it or hate it, Google will capture some market. Healthy competition is good for the market. Funny thing is that Google had one enemy before and now they will have two.
Google Android (HTC Dream) vs Apple iPhone 3G -A Comparision
http://androidgeek.blogspot.com/2008/09/google-android-htc-dream-vs-apple_9364.html
I have a problem with my Gphone. I downloaded an App and its working funny.
Phone Co: Its not a problem with the us, call the phone manufacturer. Here is an 800 number, good luck.
HTC/LG/etc: Its not a problem with the phone, did you call the carrier?
App Devl: Our app works fine, but I hear that Google had an issue
Google: Look we just provide the framework and search, call the carrier, they sold you the phone.
All this assumes that the phone company, manufacturer, Google and App developer have help desks and reps…
Can’t wait for my Gphone….
HTC makes ugly and hard to use phones.
Iphone is an easy to use and beautiful phone.
Apple has been writing software for years.
Google is just starting.
I don’t think the two phones are even comparables.
I bet anything that if someone uses an Iphone for a week, there is no going back.
lol i dont know where ppl are coming from with the dropped calls and all there other crying about the iphone. Had the 1 st one not one problem. The iphone 3g was slow here and there but with the 2.1 update it 100% tip top better battery everything go’s faster. With out a doubt the best phone ive had. Apple has no worries. And the ppl have problems with there iphones after the update you must have did something to mess it up.
Buy it…all you city folk…you know you can’t live without it. What would you do without the latest tech device? I think life as it exists might stop if you…didn’t…have…the…latest…gadget. Just don’t deprive me of your bitching when the service sucks and the price drops to $50 after 6 months:) Sheep.
I have known for a long time HTC is one of the most subpar brand of gimmicky phones out there… even surpassing Apple in shoddy equipment. But then again, the people who buy iPhones and Google HTC’s are the people who fall for gimmicks.
Good move for Google, terrible move for everyone dumb enough to buy one… which is a surprising amount, apparently.
HTC is a very experienced hardware OEM whom makes the Treo (past and present), Palm is the one that popularized touch-screen PDAs and Phones FIRST. HTC also makes most of the Windows Mobile phones out there including the last few AT&T high-end PDA phones.
HTC is also well known for crippling their hardware and not caring about their customers http://www.htcclassaction.org/
Google has a lot of cash to spend, so they may as well spend it on a phone operating system. As far as a serious competitor to the iPhone? C’mon get real.
Software:
Google is real good with web search engines. But an OS? That takes soem real skills. Google’s software is probably going to be better than windows mobile, but I clean up stuff left by my dog thats better than windows mobile, so thats not saying much. see. Apple on the other hand is fundamentally an OS company, so I have to give this to Apple.
Hardware:
HTC makes so so hardware, real cheap components and workmanship, added to fairly cursory QC. They’re the biggest because they pump out the most product, not the best product. Apple contracts the best possible hardware and is real hands on. Plus they have world class QC. Their products last. I have 15 year old macs that still run fine and are in daily use as word processors and e-mail clients. My four year old iPod works as good as the day I bought it and its loaded with tunes. My wife’s new iPod touch is a freaking jealousy mongering monster. Hardware definitely goes to Apple
Network:
The dropped call problem on the iPhone, isn’t the hardware, its AT&T’s overstrained network. They just couldn’t load test it until there was actually 4 or 5 million iPhones added to it, so it will get better very soon. That leaves us with Verizon, which is probably the worst phone company on the planet. My mom has it on her cell phone and there are huge coverage holes - this in Los Angeles County. Up north, its virtually non-existant without roaming (i.e. somebody else’s network).
No - Apple is safe for now and a few years ahead.
I have a Dopod phone made by HTC. This is the biggest piece of junk I have ever had - it turns off by itself all the time, runs out of memory (I use only phone book and took about 15 pictures). I had software re-loaded 4 (!) times by the distributor and had to fight with them to exchange the phone for a new one, which they did after 2 month of arguing. The “new” phone is exactly the same. I paid $ 600 when this phone came out and the price went down to $ 150 in one year! Never again HTC!
One of the most awaited phone..interesting one to follow..
I have the HTC Touch through Sprint and it isn’t any good. It always freezes, when it’s on stand by and the screen isn’t on, calls, texts, and e-mails don’t come through until I turn the screen on. I’ve already had one replacement and I’m just tired of dealing with it, I went back to my old school phone!
HTC got good quality of products. I had one of the HTC touch screen phone from AT&T and I like it a lot. I am looking forward for the new HTC phone.
Umm, Yi-Wyn, that’s a photo of the HTC Touch HD… As your own article reported, the HTC Dream will be unveiled Tuesday. The Touch HD runs WindowsMobile, not Android.
HTC is a huge manufacturer of mobile devices, although they are usually branded under another name.
I have no doubt that the HTC phone will be a very very strong competitor to the iphone
I can not wait to get rid of my Iphone, today I had over a dozen dropped calls, often it rings but no button appears to allow me to answer. I hate the thing! I will never buy another apple product!
Waukesha, Apple may be control freaks, but they always put out the best polished products. This is what you will not see with the gPhone. More than Apple, its AT&T that bothers me, with “unlimited” data plans that are not really unlimited. If iPhone is offerred to other carriers that would be a very good thing. Having the at least the second best, gPhone available to other carriers is good thing.
HTC is quite reliable. The touchscreen technology existed on HTC phones prior to iPhone. In fact, Garmin’s GPS had touch screen technology. All Apple did was bring the touch screen technology to the cell phone. I am keen on the Garmin Nuvifone…coming out soon too…
Please Googly is a Search company. Iphone has nothing to worry about. Tell me one Google non-search product that has taken over. Maps, gmail, etc.
Sorry to say iPhone does it right everytime.
While I like the IPhone, I can not purchase it. The only factor is it’s carrier, AT&T. I oppose the political contributions they have made to anti-gay organizations and candidates. As I am about to select a new phone which allows wider internet options. I am thrilled to learn of this and with a fast rollout I am all but sold!
zzzz…..
yeah…sure the google phone will completely destroy the iPhone…. right. ok…
just like the other competitors in the mp3 player market..
zzzzzzz…..
HTC makes something like 70% of all phones using Windows Mobile - globally. You know them under a variety of names offered by Verizon, AT&T etc. They make extraordinary products - can’t wait to see it.
“You can find an image of both the iPhone and Google phone side by side on Engadget. - Yi-Wyn Yen”
Actually, that is a comparison of the iPhone and HTC Touch HD device. The HTC Touch HD is powered by a Windows Mobile operating system.
Pictures of the HTC Dream (or T-Mobile G1) which will be running the Google operating system (called Android) is available here:
http://www.engadget.com/photos/htcs-android-driven-dream-revealed-in-glorious-spy-photos/1008301/
Honestly behave. The iPhone is revolutionary as far as portable computing devices go. That’s right, a portable computing device, that happens to have a phone. If you just want a phone go get a razor or something. Granted the iPhone isn’t perfect but it is a good couple hands above the competition and without the iPhone we wouldn’t have a google android “iPhone” competitor so be happy. Normally I love to make fun of apple but recently purchased my wife our first apple product which was the iPhone and we love it. The keyboard does leave a bit to be desired but that is more a function of my large fingers than the keys themselves and the device self corrects words for me so that makes it almost a non-issue. Personally I am a blackberry user but I can see switching to an iPhone like device if a corp can run that phone’s version of a BES. My kids have played with the thing for 6 hours blasting music with it so I don’t believe the “6 hours” story about the battery dying and I also have not had a single dropped call yet and while I don’t doubt that happens (happens on my BB as well) I think that is a good deal of exaggeration. Oh, and don’t forget, those of you complaining are the ones who bought the computing devices in the first place. So stop all the balling and if you have the cash go out and get a T-Mobile “whatchamacallit” phone, version 1.0. Oh, did I mention it was T-Mobile? We will see you same complainers back on the message boards whining about something else.
Ad driven phone? Not for me, unless the service is virtually free.
No way the experience could be as good as the iphone where Apple controls the software and hardware and apps.
I could only imagine how fast my phone would be ruined if their was no control over apps. Apple apps are fantastic, I have downloaded dozens and haven’t paid a dime.
For the person who had all those dropped calls, where are you at? I haven’t had 1 call dropped in over a year that I can remember. Also, if you have 3G iphone, did you download latest software? All blogs I’ve read say it has cleared up the bugs some people were experiencing; I have had very few of the bugs.
never rule Apple out…they always seem to bounce back! purposely done they hold back fun cool neccessary features until someone tried to beat they they unleach… i call it the quick draw! Sony does the same! it is stupid I hate it but business is business they maximize their profits any way they can.,,,dont ever forget Sony’s BETA format pigs get slaughtered!
Biggest iphone flaw is the expensive service. What’s the deal with google’s new phone? Just one provider? $100 minimum monthly service rate?
To: Ken Cutts
The answer to your question is YES! HTC is just about the best and most experienced company on PDA phones, especially Windows Mobile phones
It’s not competing against the iPhone; it’s competing against total junk, like Windows mobile phones, or the Treo. Apple has nothing to worry about.
@ Ken Cutts
HTC makes excellent phones because they are the hardware company. It is the crappy stock windows mobile that makes it suck. xda-developers.com has the answer for that though.
A majority of my friends and Apple Stock owners recently dumped Verizon service for AT&T’s Iphone. With regret we have all sold our stock and now yearn for a return to solid cell service Verizon has always provided.
Google = nice web apps
Apple = incredible communication and entertainment systems
Google is going to have to prove it’s a good phone to make any impact on the iPhone. I have had the iPhone for just about a year now and it is without question the best cell phone I have ever owned - and I have had many. It replaced both a Blackberry and Razr that I used to carry together.
Not necessarily the end of a device liek the iPhone! I was a PocketPC user for many years and carefully choose the iPhone because I knew it would be reliable and backed/created/promoted by a reputable company that is known for quality products. Can the same be said for HTC?
google phone will surpass iphone for one reason alone. They’re not control freaks about the platform and won’t rip you off on apps. Iphone doesn’t even have a keyboard and that soft keyboard is a joke.
Never thought I’d say this, but the 3G iPhone is an aboninable platform unsuited for serious use. Yesterday was 31 dropped calls, no battery after 6 hours and a keyboard that acts up. Can’t wait for something like the google phone to offer some competition.
when and where is it going to come out, any photos of it yet?
You can find an image of both the iPhone and Google phone side by side on Engadget. - Yi-Wyn Yen
What exactly does “coming soon” mean? A week, month, year? This is kind of an important detail.
The phone is expected sometime this fall. It’s rumored to hit stores in October, but Google, HTC, and T-Mobile will not confirm the details until Sept. 23. - Yi-Wyn Yen
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