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BY BORYS KRAWCZENIUK
STAFF WRITER
A brother of New York Sen. Hillary Clinton and local Democrats who backed her unsuccessful presidential campaign socialized privately Monday with a top surrogate of the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, Arizona Sen. John McCain.
The private gathering featured Carly Fiorina, Mr. McCain’s top economic adviser, and took place at the Dunmore home of political consultant Jamie Brazil, a longtime friend of Mrs. Clinton’s family who has signed on as paid national director of Mr. McCain’s Citizens for McCain Coalition.
The attendees included Tony Rodham, Mrs. Clinton’s youngest sibling, his wife, Megan, and their two children; attorney Kathleen Granahan Kane, who coordinated Mrs. Clinton’s presidential campaign in Northeast Pennsylvania during the primary election; and Virginia McGregor, sister of Scranton Mayor Chris Doherty.
With the Democratic National Convention less than a week away, the gathering raises questions about the support Illinois Sen. Barack Obama can expect from former local supporters of Mrs. Clinton, who dominated at the polls in the Northeast in the April primary election. Mrs. Clinton won 74 percent of Lackawanna County Democrats to Mr. Obama’s 26 percent.
Ms. Fiorina’s daylong local visit, part of a two-day bus tour of the state, was aimed at talking disenchanted former supporters of Mrs. Clinton into supporting Mr. McCain. The private gathering was not a fundraiser.
“I think there’s going to be a groundswell of support for McCain,” said Lackawanna County District Attorney Andy Jarbola, a Republican and one of the people who attended. “I think a lot of Hillary supporters are going to be for McCain.”
Efforts to reach Mr. Brazil, Mr. Rodham and a spokesman for Mrs. Clinton were unsuccessful.
Ellen Mellody, the Northeast spokeswoman for Mr. Obama’s campaign, declined to comment on Mr. Rodham’s presence at the meeting, but said Mr. Obama’s backing by Mrs. Clinton and Gov. Ed Rendell is supplemented by growing local support.
“We’re seeing huge support and momentum throughout the region,” Ms. Mellody said. “Currently, we have over 1,000 volunteers, many of which are independent Republicans and former Clinton supporters and volunteers. We expect to sign up hundreds more in the coming weeks. We have three offices open in the region, and we are opening two more shortly.”
Mrs. Kane said her presence at the gathering should not be read as a sign of support for Mr. McCain.
“I don’t know. I’m not sure. I’m trying to get as much information as I can on both of them,” she said when asked if she’s backing Mr. McCain. “I would have loved to see her as president. We still have a week to go. You never know what’s going to happen at the convention. I think she would be a fantastic choice (for vice president).”
Mrs. Kane said she didn’t read Mr. Rodham’s presence as a sign he’s supporting Mr. McCain.
“No, it definitely does not. The reason he was there was because he and Jamie are very good friends,” Mrs. Kane said. “I think that was just a social call.”
Mrs. McGregor declined to say if she’s supporting Mr. Obama but said she attended because Mr. Brazil is a friend.
“I was always a fan of Carly,” she said.
Mrs. McGregor’s appearance also is no indicator of the position of her brother, Mr. Doherty, she said.
“It didn’t mean anything,” said Mrs. McGregor, who ran Mr. Doherty’s successful 2005 re-election campaign. “I’m just a housewife. I’m a nobody.”
Mr. Doherty has publicly endorsed Mr. Obama.
Ms. Fiorina spoke briefly about Mr. McCain’s economic policies but mostly mingled with her audience, Mr. Jarbola said. About 20 people attended.
After dropping by Mr. Brazil’s home, Ms. Fiorina addressed a public event at the Ramada Inn in South Abington Township. About a third of the audience was Democrats, based on a show of hands Ms. Fiorina requested.
Ms. Fiorina peppered her Ramada remarks with references to Mrs. Clinton, an oddity considering many of the attendees were Republicans who detest the New York senator.
Mr. Brazil is a longtime close friend of the Rodham family and a friend of Mr. Rendell, who also supported Mrs. Clinton.
Mr. Rendell is endorsing Mr. Obama, although he has said he will vote for Mrs. Clinton when her name is placed in nomination at the convention next week.
Lackawanna County Recorder of Deeds Evie Rafalko McNulty, a Clinton convention delegate who plans to support Mr. Obama after the convention, lamented Mr. Rodham’s appearance at Mr. Brazil’s home for the private get-together with Ms. Fiorina.
“Poor Hillary,” she said. “You can pick you friends, but you can’t pick your family.”
Contact the writer: bkrawczeniuk@timesshamrock.com
The private gathering featured Carly Fiorina, Mr. McCain’s top economic adviser, and took place at the Dunmore home of political consultant Jamie Brazil, a longtime friend of Mrs. Clinton’s family who has signed on as paid national director of Mr. McCain’s Citizens for McCain Coalition.
The attendees included Tony Rodham, Mrs. Clinton’s youngest sibling, his wife, Megan, and their two children; attorney Kathleen Granahan Kane, who coordinated Mrs. Clinton’s presidential campaign in Northeast Pennsylvania during the primary election; and Virginia McGregor, sister of Scranton Mayor Chris Doherty.
With the Democratic National Convention less than a week away, the gathering raises questions about the support Illinois Sen. Barack Obama can expect from former local supporters of Mrs. Clinton, who dominated at the polls in the Northeast in the April primary election. Mrs. Clinton won 74 percent of Lackawanna County Democrats to Mr. Obama’s 26 percent.
Ms. Fiorina’s daylong local visit, part of a two-day bus tour of the state, was aimed at talking disenchanted former supporters of Mrs. Clinton into supporting Mr. McCain. The private gathering was not a fundraiser.
“I think there’s going to be a groundswell of support for McCain,” said Lackawanna County District Attorney Andy Jarbola, a Republican and one of the people who attended. “I think a lot of Hillary supporters are going to be for McCain.”
Efforts to reach Mr. Brazil, Mr. Rodham and a spokesman for Mrs. Clinton were unsuccessful.
Ellen Mellody, the Northeast spokeswoman for Mr. Obama’s campaign, declined to comment on Mr. Rodham’s presence at the meeting, but said Mr. Obama’s backing by Mrs. Clinton and Gov. Ed Rendell is supplemented by growing local support.
“We’re seeing huge support and momentum throughout the region,” Ms. Mellody said. “Currently, we have over 1,000 volunteers, many of which are independent Republicans and former Clinton supporters and volunteers. We expect to sign up hundreds more in the coming weeks. We have three offices open in the region, and we are opening two more shortly.”
Mrs. Kane said her presence at the gathering should not be read as a sign of support for Mr. McCain.
“I don’t know. I’m not sure. I’m trying to get as much information as I can on both of them,” she said when asked if she’s backing Mr. McCain. “I would have loved to see her as president. We still have a week to go. You never know what’s going to happen at the convention. I think she would be a fantastic choice (for vice president).”
Mrs. Kane said she didn’t read Mr. Rodham’s presence as a sign he’s supporting Mr. McCain.
“No, it definitely does not. The reason he was there was because he and Jamie are very good friends,” Mrs. Kane said. “I think that was just a social call.”
Mrs. McGregor declined to say if she’s supporting Mr. Obama but said she attended because Mr. Brazil is a friend.
“I was always a fan of Carly,” she said.
Mrs. McGregor’s appearance also is no indicator of the position of her brother, Mr. Doherty, she said.
“It didn’t mean anything,” said Mrs. McGregor, who ran Mr. Doherty’s successful 2005 re-election campaign. “I’m just a housewife. I’m a nobody.”
Mr. Doherty has publicly endorsed Mr. Obama.
Ms. Fiorina spoke briefly about Mr. McCain’s economic policies but mostly mingled with her audience, Mr. Jarbola said. About 20 people attended.
After dropping by Mr. Brazil’s home, Ms. Fiorina addressed a public event at the Ramada Inn in South Abington Township. About a third of the audience was Democrats, based on a show of hands Ms. Fiorina requested.
Ms. Fiorina peppered her Ramada remarks with references to Mrs. Clinton, an oddity considering many of the attendees were Republicans who detest the New York senator.
Mr. Brazil is a longtime close friend of the Rodham family and a friend of Mr. Rendell, who also supported Mrs. Clinton.
Mr. Rendell is endorsing Mr. Obama, although he has said he will vote for Mrs. Clinton when her name is placed in nomination at the convention next week.
Lackawanna County Recorder of Deeds Evie Rafalko McNulty, a Clinton convention delegate who plans to support Mr. Obama after the convention, lamented Mr. Rodham’s appearance at Mr. Brazil’s home for the private get-together with Ms. Fiorina.
“Poor Hillary,” she said. “You can pick you friends, but you can’t pick your family.”
Contact the writer: bkrawczeniuk@timesshamrock.com
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Karen wrote on Aug 20, 2008 8:14 AM:
" Clinton backers are in for a shock if they think they can secretly support McCain now and expect Clinton to still have a political career in 2012. What goes around comes around. If they conspire to sabotage Obama's chances now, then Clinton will pay next time she runs for office. Big time. "
Jen wrote on Aug 20, 2008 8:22 AM:
" Way to back the wrong horse. Unbelievable and totally disappointing. "
Melissa Contorno wrote on Aug 20, 2008 8:32 AM:
" This is very interesting. My husband and I are both union employees, but do not know who we will be voting for in November, either. So many of our friends feel we are completely UNREPRESENTED in this upcoming election, which is very unfortunate. "
carl wrote on Aug 20, 2008 8:52 AM:
" Those Hillary supporters think that she's got any chances in 2012. Just imagine all the resistance she found in this primaries, now think about how happy will Obama supporters be with her after him losing the General election. Obama taught us how to defeat a clinton. Bet the farm that the anti-Hillary candidate will get a lot of support in 2012. Ah.. and don't count on racist voters; the anti-Hillary guy will be a white, southern, probable Mark Warner. "
Jack wrote on Aug 20, 2008 9:05 AM:
" As I write this let me include a caveat that I am an Obama supporter. All that aside.....
I fail to see how a person could have supported HRC and now consider Sen. McCain for president. During the primary election there were two main points of difference between BO and HRC, 1) whether there should be a healthcare mandate for adults & 2) Whether the U.S. President should meet with foreign leaders of all states.
So how is it that rational people can now support a candidate, McCain, who opposes every major policy that HRC proposed? "
I fail to see how a person could have supported HRC and now consider Sen. McCain for president. During the primary election there were two main points of difference between BO and HRC, 1) whether there should be a healthcare mandate for adults & 2) Whether the U.S. President should meet with foreign leaders of all states.
So how is it that rational people can now support a candidate, McCain, who opposes every major policy that HRC proposed? "
Lou R wrote on Aug 20, 2008 9:25 AM:
" Where has all the common sense gone? Eight years of an inept, corrupt and unlawful government, one that McCain is likely to continue since the mentality of Bush and McCain are so similar, and hurt feelings get in the way of the Clinton family. This reeks with racism more so than Hillary 2012 which would be a huge political mistake. "
Lawnchair wrote on Aug 20, 2008 9:33 AM:
" Hey. It's the Tony Rodham who made hundreds of thousands in consulting fees from people who were granted pardons by Bill Clinton in 2001 (and then went on to donate millions to Hillary's Senate races and the Clinton Library). To be fair, Hillary's other brother Hugh may have made more. I was wondering if we'd ever hear from the Rodham boys again. "
stella wrote on Aug 20, 2008 9:41 AM:
" This isn't about policy, it's personal. The Clintons are still piqued at losing. So, contrary to everything they SAID they supported, they are willing to throw the country to the wolves? Yeah, makes me believe they have the country's best interests in mind--not.
I would have supported HIllary had she won. Now, I'm more than willing to work for her opponent. "
I would have supported HIllary had she won. Now, I'm more than willing to work for her opponent. "
Jerry Dignam wrote on Aug 20, 2008 10:15 AM:
" With Obama support starting to fade from older Dems recovering from the Obama Kool-Aid hangover...watch for a last ditch surge to place Hillary's name in nomination for President at next weeks convention...it could be a stunning political move with her succeeding if she can get to a 3rd ballot. "
hillary wrote on Aug 20, 2008 10:21 AM:
" it does not bother me a bit the fact that Hillary and Her Family are Friends with any Republican. What is wrong to have a Friend who is Republican ot vice versa. Stop this nonsense. I can feel a dirty job from Obama camp. Dont thay have anything to do , but spying and spreading rumors. They did for 16 months in primaries,. Get You hands of Hillary and get busy with Your own problems. Hillary Brother has all right to be a Friend with whom He choose. He dont need to ask anyone for "OK". "
nelle wrote on Aug 20, 2008 10:27 AM:
" sickens me how party supporters - BIG name party supporters- just decide to trade sides w/o ramifications "
deadendangel wrote on Aug 20, 2008 10:27 AM:
" this is very disturbing and not unpredictable news....those Clinton's and their backers will stop at nothing, backstabbing traitors one and all. I'm very sorry I even voted for Bill twice! Never a vote for a Clinton again. "
hillary wrote on Aug 20, 2008 10:33 AM:
" You all are rumors spreaders!!!!
Obama has a body in Republican Party, and a possible VP, so why this is OK with You. Why a such stupid remarcs about Hillarys Brother. You are a tipical Obamas supporters. This wont get You no were. . Any one from Hillary or other Democrats have all right to be Friends witch they choose, and is any of my or Your bussines to choose for them!!! Just shut up and get busy with Your Friends. Obama has a lot of Republicans as Friends, and He see them at any time He wish. So mined Your own bussines. Hillary will be supported , no metter who she is Friend with!!!
McCain and Hillary, they are a long time Friends, and it is OK with anyone, who can put away politics and have a great time together!!!
You, Obama supporters are just as we can see. Hateful,ugly and two faces!!!, just as Obama is!!!
to CARL!!! You are just as I said above. Hillary was cheated by Her own Party, and dont tell me, that She is the racist, because Obama whole primaries were base on racism,hate,lies!!! "
Obama has a body in Republican Party, and a possible VP, so why this is OK with You. Why a such stupid remarcs about Hillarys Brother. You are a tipical Obamas supporters. This wont get You no were. . Any one from Hillary or other Democrats have all right to be Friends witch they choose, and is any of my or Your bussines to choose for them!!! Just shut up and get busy with Your Friends. Obama has a lot of Republicans as Friends, and He see them at any time He wish. So mined Your own bussines. Hillary will be supported , no metter who she is Friend with!!!
McCain and Hillary, they are a long time Friends, and it is OK with anyone, who can put away politics and have a great time together!!!
You, Obama supporters are just as we can see. Hateful,ugly and two faces!!!, just as Obama is!!!
to CARL!!! You are just as I said above. Hillary was cheated by Her own Party, and dont tell me, that She is the racist, because Obama whole primaries were base on racism,hate,lies!!! "
muffler wrote on Aug 20, 2008 10:36 AM:
" It doesn't surprise me. This is desperation by the Clinton/Bush families. If they do this then the whole two party system is a sham. It's the same people running Coke and Pepsi. I guess Obama put a kink in the plan. "
hillary wrote on Aug 20, 2008 10:44 AM:
" Stella...You are rediculas, and writing a such nonsense opinion...!!!
Can You tell Your Brother or any one from Your Family, who they can choose for Friend.??? This is as stupid as is. Hillary never hide the fact, that She is very good Friend with McCain and His Family, so why You are so angry, what is wrong with that???. Wont You be angry, if someone treat Yo badly, lie about You, still from You???
I dont think so. Hillary is Friend with McCains and allways will be, so is the rest of their Families!!! "
Can You tell Your Brother or any one from Your Family, who they can choose for Friend.??? This is as stupid as is. Hillary never hide the fact, that She is very good Friend with McCain and His Family, so why You are so angry, what is wrong with that???. Wont You be angry, if someone treat Yo badly, lie about You, still from You???
I dont think so. Hillary is Friend with McCains and allways will be, so is the rest of their Families!!! "
NER wrote on Aug 20, 2008 10:46 AM:
" I love the final quotation from Evie Rafalko McNulty, "Poor Hillary...You can pick you friends, but you can’t pick your family.” Apparently, it's also not so easy to guide some of them either! "
MrEddieFather wrote on Aug 20, 2008 10:49 AM:
" Hillary,
You're right - it does not matter who has friends where, when somebaody's a nobody like me. But when you are working on political campaigns appearances matter. And right now it appears to me that the Clintons and Rodhams care only about themselves, not the country or party. "
You're right - it does not matter who has friends where, when somebaody's a nobody like me. But when you are working on political campaigns appearances matter. And right now it appears to me that the Clintons and Rodhams care only about themselves, not the country or party. "
hillary wrote on Aug 20, 2008 10:51 AM:
" Hillary all the way.Hillarys supporters(over 18 milions) are not stupid, and whatever She does or any one from Her Family it is OK. I am assuring You all Obama fans, that it does not bother US to know , that Her Brother with Family visits McCains. They can put politics away and have great time together. Not You, Obama fans, You dont understand what Franship means, try, You will be more happy!!! Hate is destroing Your happines. You choose to be as You are... "
Kathy wrote on Aug 20, 2008 10:52 AM:
" I thought I was all out of surprises when it came to the Clinton's...Well if 2012 is her goal she will never get my vote. "
Ken wrote on Aug 20, 2008 10:56 AM:
" We can't pick our relatives. "
slag wrote on Aug 20, 2008 11:19 AM:
" Hillary needs to stop playing games and get her people on board. She claims to care about the fate of this country, but there's no reason I should still be reading stories like this. Either she's just going through the motions or she's completely inept. Neither gives me confidence in her leadership qualities. "
Diplomacy wrote on Aug 20, 2008 11:32 AM:
" The Clinton Drama continues. They just seem to have a 'nack' of getting in the 'thick of it'.
Now, it's the 'Brothers Grim', OOPS! The 'Brothers Rotten', OOPS! I mean Rodham. The pair, Hugh & Tony.
I'd say CLASSIC OPPORTUNISTS. Seems they both had connections with the Republic of Georgia, no less. A hazelnut import business.
Simply GOOGLE Tony Rodham & Hugh Rodham & you can read all about it.
Most likely the LOSER twins were never DEMOCRAT to begin with!
OPPORTUNISTS just like their sister, Hillary, the GOLDWATER gal. "
Now, it's the 'Brothers Grim', OOPS! The 'Brothers Rotten', OOPS! I mean Rodham. The pair, Hugh & Tony.
I'd say CLASSIC OPPORTUNISTS. Seems they both had connections with the Republic of Georgia, no less. A hazelnut import business.
Simply GOOGLE Tony Rodham & Hugh Rodham & you can read all about it.
Most likely the LOSER twins were never DEMOCRAT to begin with!
OPPORTUNISTS just like their sister, Hillary, the GOLDWATER gal. "
XAZ wrote on Aug 20, 2008 12:17 PM:
" Obama CANNOT and will not win. His poll numbers are TANKING. People are sick of hearing his droning voice, his "America stinks" speeches, and his ponderous lectures. His thuggish cultists, with their heavy handed ways, are going over like lead balloons, as well. And they are noticing his flip flops, and his flubs--which are many.
The far left is annoyed at his willingness to throw privacy under the bus (FISA) as well as his scary parsing on the issue of CHOICE. Flip, flop--he wants to please everyone, and he pleases no one, and looks WEAK.
If he were a caucasian fellow with the EXACT SAME RESUME and life experience, he would have left the race before Mike Gravel did, with less money than Mike Gravel raised--and you know it. Oprah would not have leaped to his side, nor would have the two Senators from Massachusetts who IGNORED the wishes of their own constituency to pander to the African American vote.
Too many Obama supporters are so eager to "not be racists" that they suspend their judgment. This young man has a future, but right now, he neither has the EXPERIENCE nor the political judgment forged from experience to be President.
John Kennedy had almost FIFTEEN YEARS in Congress before he ran for the office. He also was a Naval Officer who was in COMMAND during wartime.
Obama was a social worker, a lawyer who never tried a case, a part time legislator and a part time law lecturer. Those are NOT QUALIFCATIONS to be President. SORRY--they just are NOT. Anyone who insists they are is a lying panderer. His resume is as THIN as Twiggy!
Obama was in too much of a hurry, he just could not wait, when he should have--now he's crashing and burning. Soon, he'll be yesterday's story, like a Pet Rock or a Hula Hoop--an old fad, a foolish fashion, like say, maxidresses, when he could have been a real FORCE FOR CHANGE, had he only not been impatient and selfish.
He should have hitched his wagon to Clinton's star--he would have been VP for eight years, President for eight. Now, he'll just be a FOOTNOTE to history, a Daily Double Jeopardy trivia question.
"I'll take Also-Rans for a thousand, Alex!"
He's a fool. His bullying supporters, though, they're worse. They refuse to believe that not everyone who doesn't like Obama is a racist. They believe we should smile and fall in love with the Empty Suit. Sorry. No Deal.
I recommend that anyone who can't vote for Obama think about voting in protest for Cynthia McKinney, and then writing to Howard (Lost His Mind) Dean and telling him why.
Cue the song "Didn't We Almost Have It All" as Obama exits, stage left...or right, depending on if he's flipping or flopping on that particular day. "
The far left is annoyed at his willingness to throw privacy under the bus (FISA) as well as his scary parsing on the issue of CHOICE. Flip, flop--he wants to please everyone, and he pleases no one, and looks WEAK.
If he were a caucasian fellow with the EXACT SAME RESUME and life experience, he would have left the race before Mike Gravel did, with less money than Mike Gravel raised--and you know it. Oprah would not have leaped to his side, nor would have the two Senators from Massachusetts who IGNORED the wishes of their own constituency to pander to the African American vote.
Too many Obama supporters are so eager to "not be racists" that they suspend their judgment. This young man has a future, but right now, he neither has the EXPERIENCE nor the political judgment forged from experience to be President.
John Kennedy had almost FIFTEEN YEARS in Congress before he ran for the office. He also was a Naval Officer who was in COMMAND during wartime.
Obama was a social worker, a lawyer who never tried a case, a part time legislator and a part time law lecturer. Those are NOT QUALIFCATIONS to be President. SORRY--they just are NOT. Anyone who insists they are is a lying panderer. His resume is as THIN as Twiggy!
Obama was in too much of a hurry, he just could not wait, when he should have--now he's crashing and burning. Soon, he'll be yesterday's story, like a Pet Rock or a Hula Hoop--an old fad, a foolish fashion, like say, maxidresses, when he could have been a real FORCE FOR CHANGE, had he only not been impatient and selfish.
He should have hitched his wagon to Clinton's star--he would have been VP for eight years, President for eight. Now, he'll just be a FOOTNOTE to history, a Daily Double Jeopardy trivia question.
"I'll take Also-Rans for a thousand, Alex!"
He's a fool. His bullying supporters, though, they're worse. They refuse to believe that not everyone who doesn't like Obama is a racist. They believe we should smile and fall in love with the Empty Suit. Sorry. No Deal.
I recommend that anyone who can't vote for Obama think about voting in protest for Cynthia McKinney, and then writing to Howard (Lost His Mind) Dean and telling him why.
Cue the song "Didn't We Almost Have It All" as Obama exits, stage left...or right, depending on if he's flipping or flopping on that particular day. "
Nancy wrote on Aug 20, 2008 12:17 PM:
" I live in MI and I am for Hillery Clinton. She would have won MI but that was all a big mess like FL and the wrong man was placed in office.
There is no way I trust Obama and the only way many in MI would vote for him is if he choose Clinton for VP.
If he dosen't choose her, I will vote for McCain, he could do better if he would happen to have her as VP he would be in in a min.
I also believe if she was on the ticket other then DEM. or REP. she would win, she is really the best choice.
I will always stand by her.
I have watched all the news on TV, and read about all of them in the news papers. Talked to many people.
I will stand by my choice. "
There is no way I trust Obama and the only way many in MI would vote for him is if he choose Clinton for VP.
If he dosen't choose her, I will vote for McCain, he could do better if he would happen to have her as VP he would be in in a min.
I also believe if she was on the ticket other then DEM. or REP. she would win, she is really the best choice.
I will always stand by her.
I have watched all the news on TV, and read about all of them in the news papers. Talked to many people.
I will stand by my choice. "
bobby dee wrote on Aug 20, 2008 12:24 PM:
" Not to mention, Obama is a commie. "
Al wrote on Aug 20, 2008 12:36 PM:
" How many of those female former Hillary supporters want the Supreme Court to take away their right to choose? How stupid can they be? "
massie wrote on Aug 20, 2008 12:37 PM:
" I wonder what people are thinking about not voting for OBAMA because CLINTON is not nominated.But am urging you to look all you share with CLINTON, then compare OBAMA to MACCAIN and vote on that. "
Chris in Manhattan wrote on Aug 20, 2008 12:44 PM:
" Remember, the Clintongs just need to get a chunk of superdelegates to switch to HRC and the convention gets crazy quickly. I'm looking forward to a huge surprise next week, with HRC emerging the victor in November.
If it's not HRC, I'm voting McCain. "
If it's not HRC, I'm voting McCain. "
Susan wrote on Aug 20, 2008 12:50 PM:
" Isn't this a cute and chummy meeting! Even brought the kiddies to witness the changeover to the GOP.
When will Auntie and Uncle join the fun?
Oh wait; they have a catharsis and two speeches planned for next week. I guess it will have to wait for the Labor Day BBQ. "
When will Auntie and Uncle join the fun?
Oh wait; they have a catharsis and two speeches planned for next week. I guess it will have to wait for the Labor Day BBQ. "
Think wrote on Aug 20, 2008 12:51 PM:
" My heart sank.
I don't believe I can live through another four years with a greedy warmongering irresponsible and self-serving GOPer in office. These people are wealthy. They're not adversely affected by needless wars and an awful economy.
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Response to Jack who wrote on Aug 20, 2008 9:05 AM:
THEY'RE NOT RATIONAL
My question to these Hillary supporters:
Why didn't you work as hard for her campaign as you're working against Obama's and the Democratic Party? "
I don't believe I can live through another four years with a greedy warmongering irresponsible and self-serving GOPer in office. These people are wealthy. They're not adversely affected by needless wars and an awful economy.
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Response to Jack who wrote on Aug 20, 2008 9:05 AM:
THEY'RE NOT RATIONAL
My question to these Hillary supporters:
Why didn't you work as hard for her campaign as you're working against Obama's and the Democratic Party? "
Daniel wrote on Aug 20, 2008 12:57 PM:
" To Nancy - How can you be for Hillary Clinton? She is not even in the race. lol....Delusional Hillary supporters dreaming again, I guess. "
mykidsfuture wrote on Aug 20, 2008 1:03 PM:
" It is a shame that these "fake" Democrats would even consider voting for McCain. They will be responsible for the overturning of Roe v. Wade and bringing back the Cold War.
We would have officially turned the clock back to the 50's. I am sure that McCain will feel very nostalgic! "
We would have officially turned the clock back to the 50's. I am sure that McCain will feel very nostalgic! "
Go for the throat wrote on Aug 20, 2008 1:05 PM:
" Sour grapes. They are acting like a bunch of adolescent delinquents. If they get their way, they will hand the Supreme Court over to McSame and the conservatives for the next 20 years. Good bye to individual rights! "
Think wrote on Aug 20, 2008 1:08 PM:
" Hi Nancy!
(who wrote on Aug 20, 2008 12:17 PM)
I too lived in Michigan. Studied economics at Macomb County.
Since Republicans took office in 2001, Michigan's economy sank to Depression levels. The rest of the country is just beginning to catch up.
Republicans began diverting aid from manufacturing in our state to big oil, pharmaceuticals, weaponry and war carriers in foreign countries. And this started before 9/11. Immediately after 9/11, do you recall how many companies started laying off people?
Michigan leaders pleaded with the Republican administration for a little levity. DENIED! One of Michigan's main adversaries was John McCain.
Now, I don't know about your neighborhood, but there are several newly constructed homes that have never been occupied in mine. Small business after small business has had to close.
Please read McCain's plan for the US economy, then decide if you'll continue to "stand by (your) choice." "
(who wrote on Aug 20, 2008 12:17 PM)
I too lived in Michigan. Studied economics at Macomb County.
Since Republicans took office in 2001, Michigan's economy sank to Depression levels. The rest of the country is just beginning to catch up.
Republicans began diverting aid from manufacturing in our state to big oil, pharmaceuticals, weaponry and war carriers in foreign countries. And this started before 9/11. Immediately after 9/11, do you recall how many companies started laying off people?
Michigan leaders pleaded with the Republican administration for a little levity. DENIED! One of Michigan's main adversaries was John McCain.
Now, I don't know about your neighborhood, but there are several newly constructed homes that have never been occupied in mine. Small business after small business has had to close.
Please read McCain's plan for the US economy, then decide if you'll continue to "stand by (your) choice." "
Ben wrote on Aug 20, 2008 1:25 PM:
" To all those who are not trolls and who claim to be Clinton supporters who are going to vote for mcCain.
WHY?
Is McCain more trustworthy than Obama?
Mccain has flip flopped on every single issue in the last two months!
He has voted with Bush 95% of the time.
Even in Arizona, his support is much lower than expected.
It is pathetic and sad that you are all so short sighted because Hillary lost the nomination race fair and square.
Your support of Mccain is truly sad and pathetic. Atleast do the country a favor and NOT vote at all! We cannot live with another 4 or 8 years of Bush policies. "
WHY?
Is McCain more trustworthy than Obama?
Mccain has flip flopped on every single issue in the last two months!
He has voted with Bush 95% of the time.
Even in Arizona, his support is much lower than expected.
It is pathetic and sad that you are all so short sighted because Hillary lost the nomination race fair and square.
Your support of Mccain is truly sad and pathetic. Atleast do the country a favor and NOT vote at all! We cannot live with another 4 or 8 years of Bush policies. "
ConcernedOne wrote on Aug 20, 2008 1:36 PM:
" I almost hate to say this, but I see no other reason for it. There were very small differences in BO and HRC, so therefore how could a true Dem vote for McCain. It's the only elephant in the room. I'm sure it will be talked about much once the election is over, but it's the one thing that keeps BO from breaking that 50% mark. I wish I could say we have come further than this, but we have not! "
Mindy wrote on Aug 20, 2008 1:42 PM:
" To "Hillary"...
I laughed so hard at your posts. "Hillarys supporters(over 18 milions) are not stupid". Let's see, none of your sentences really make sense, almost everything is spelled wrong and you we are supposed to take your "enlightened" opinion seriously? Are you for real?
I was not initially an Obama supporter, but I am smart enough to put my vote behind the person who is closest in platform to my preferred candidate. I am not crying like a child and I am voting on the ISSUES. Maybe you have heard of those?
Just remember, if you screw this election up there will be NO CHANCE for Hillary in 2012. (These 18 million voters won't forget your betrayal).
Now I think Hillary is a very smart woman who ran a very dumb campaign. Period. She did not capitalize on what her strengths were and she has no one to blame for that but herself.
Please get over your bitterness and if you feel the need to vote for the opposite of what Hillary's platform was, then just stay at home and gripe with the other bitter angry women. You are giving the rest of us women a bad name! "
I laughed so hard at your posts. "Hillarys supporters(over 18 milions) are not stupid". Let's see, none of your sentences really make sense, almost everything is spelled wrong and you we are supposed to take your "enlightened" opinion seriously? Are you for real?
I was not initially an Obama supporter, but I am smart enough to put my vote behind the person who is closest in platform to my preferred candidate. I am not crying like a child and I am voting on the ISSUES. Maybe you have heard of those?
Just remember, if you screw this election up there will be NO CHANCE for Hillary in 2012. (These 18 million voters won't forget your betrayal).
Now I think Hillary is a very smart woman who ran a very dumb campaign. Period. She did not capitalize on what her strengths were and she has no one to blame for that but herself.
Please get over your bitterness and if you feel the need to vote for the opposite of what Hillary's platform was, then just stay at home and gripe with the other bitter angry women. You are giving the rest of us women a bad name! "
Brian K. wrote on Aug 20, 2008 1:44 PM:
" I see a lot of hate comments toward Obama across comment boards. These come from the same people who voted Bush twice. Not a lot of intelligence going into the GOP side of the election unfortunately. More of the same BS. Buckle down because it's going to go from bad to worse when McCain distorts enough voters. McCain has not had one solid idea put forth to better the country and the right continueto lambast Obama... ridiculous. Maybe McCain's VP pick is Coulter? That's what his campaign is running on. "
John Paul Telhomme wrote on Aug 20, 2008 1:48 PM:
" Melissa Contorno@8:32 AM and all those who are not sure which way they will vote: what are the reasons you will not vote for Obama? Give me reasons, and let me try and convince you. For those who already have their reasons (being Muslim or a terrorist does not count. Those are bogus) and will vote for McCain, start working on your sit-ups and and push-ups. You will need the upper body strength when you get drafted to to fight in the mountains on Georgia/Russia front, in Iraq, in Afghanistan, and anywhere else that McCain wants to kick up dust like Iran, Syria, Lebanon and in the Palestinian territories. Oh guys and gals, I am 52 years old and in better shape than most of you but get in shape because I will be serving with all of you when everyone between 15 and 75 is drafted. Get ready guys! Wise up! "
SS wrote on Aug 20, 2008 2:13 PM:
" Maybe the Rodhams are trying to do what's best for this nation, and let's not forget that Hillary was a Goldwater Girl and McCain replaced Goldwater as Senator and is probably his only torchbearer remaining in the Senate. Imagine what the world would have been like if Goldwater was elected as president in 1964 and Johnson didn't serve from 1964-1968. Obama is a dreamer and both Clinton and McCain are pragmatists as well as moderates. When asked questions McCain at least gives a straight answer, translating Obama's true feelings is like deciphering the Rosetta Stone. Whether we like it or not, McCain is more of a true reflection of the socially conservative and economical leanings of our area. I think we also all forget that the last time we voted for someone who promised change in Washington on little experience we got G.W. Bush. Besides, just because Hillary's brother might be "seen" with the enemy doesn't mean he supports them, nor does it mean he went there as an emissary of Hillary's. I understand perception is reality, but haven't you ever had a drink with an old friend that you politely disagree with on certain issues? "
veteran wrote on Aug 20, 2008 2:25 PM:
" John Paul Telhomme, I did serve in the mountains of Afghanistan and the deserts of Iraq......I was combat decorated as an officer, and to be honest with you, I would rather NOT return, but I would do it if a true leader like McCain or even Obama as president told me to. However, if you want to deploy I think you are following the right approach by voting for Obama. With military preparedness down (which if his words and the past conduct of democratic presidents continue, it would happen), our nations military would be decimated in the field of battle and the military would have no choice but to draft an old bugger like you. WWI - Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) WWII - FDR (Democrat) Vietnam (JFK, LBJ both Dems and Richard Nixon ended it). McCain's sons are in the military, we all know his military service and McCain even voted not to support a military contingent to Lebanon, so how can you enply McCain is a warmongerer? Obama even wanted to cut funding to us while deployed to stop the war which would have stopped us from receiving necessary equipment and supplies. Be truthfull with yourself, you want Obama in office because you want to be a part of history. Well, if you vote for Obama our Worlwide leadership, safety and military superiority would be history too. "
Karma wrote on Aug 20, 2008 2:35 PM:
" There are huge differences between BHO and HRC. Hillary didn't have to steal her policies, Obama steals everything that isn't nailed down. He stole MLKs tone...JFKs words....Cesar Chavez' battle cry...Hillary and Edward's policies...etc... etc.
And what exactly has Obama done in Illinois that should be brought to a national level? They don't export legislation like CA does with all sorts of topics. Obama and his money men stole from poor folks in his district and that is supposed to be change!? He and Ayers took money that should have been used to fix the schools to make contacts for his state senate seat run. Tens of millions of dollars for the schools of Chicago and yet no positive results were even required or recorded.
His whole campaign is full of lies and he smeared the Clinton's as racists when they have done more for the black community than Obama ever has. Both here and in Africa.
It is shameful how anyone can look into this man's background and support him. But that is the rub isn't is? Voters don't do the due diligence required and investigate Obama. They just took his lying word. "
And what exactly has Obama done in Illinois that should be brought to a national level? They don't export legislation like CA does with all sorts of topics. Obama and his money men stole from poor folks in his district and that is supposed to be change!? He and Ayers took money that should have been used to fix the schools to make contacts for his state senate seat run. Tens of millions of dollars for the schools of Chicago and yet no positive results were even required or recorded.
His whole campaign is full of lies and he smeared the Clinton's as racists when they have done more for the black community than Obama ever has. Both here and in Africa.
It is shameful how anyone can look into this man's background and support him. But that is the rub isn't is? Voters don't do the due diligence required and investigate Obama. They just took his lying word. "
David wrote on Aug 20, 2008 2:43 PM:
" I love how when all those "Obamacans" were crossing over to vote for Obama, rising above party lines was great.
Now that Hillarycans are returning the favor in the other direction, it's all wrong.
Just goes to show you how tiresome and hypocritical Obama supporters are. If they want to sabotage Hillary in 2012, good luck. It has already been shown that Obama voters (youth, yuppies) do not have to political weight to carry him to election.
Once the Clinton Dems who goofed up this time come back to the fold for the 2012 primaries, Obama and his left-wing legions will return into oblivion, where they belong.
If by chance they do sabotage Hillary again, fine, we'll just sabotage their nominee again. There's plenty more where this came from. We can all be miserable together while the GOP laughs all the way to the bank. And around and around we go. "
Now that Hillarycans are returning the favor in the other direction, it's all wrong.
Just goes to show you how tiresome and hypocritical Obama supporters are. If they want to sabotage Hillary in 2012, good luck. It has already been shown that Obama voters (youth, yuppies) do not have to political weight to carry him to election.
Once the Clinton Dems who goofed up this time come back to the fold for the 2012 primaries, Obama and his left-wing legions will return into oblivion, where they belong.
If by chance they do sabotage Hillary again, fine, we'll just sabotage their nominee again. There's plenty more where this came from. We can all be miserable together while the GOP laughs all the way to the bank. And around and around we go. "
Heidi wrote on Aug 20, 2008 2:45 PM:
" Well, HRC's family were long time Republicans. That was before she met Bill and switched. "
veteran wrote on Aug 20, 2008 2:55 PM:
" John Paul Telhomme, I did serve in the mountains of Afghanistan and the deserts of Iraq......I was combat decorated as an officer, and to be honest with you, I would rather NOT return, but I would do it if a true leader like McCain or even Obama as president told me to. However, if you want to deploy I think you are following the right approach by voting for Obama. With military preparedness down (which if his words and the past conduct of democratic presidents continue, it would happen), our nations military would be decimated in the field of battle and the military would have no choice but to draft you. WWI - Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) WWII - FDR (Democrat) Vietnam (JFK, LBJ both Dems and Richard Nixon ended it). McCain's sons are in the military, we all know his military service and McCain even voted not to support a military contingent to Lebanon, so how can you enply McCain is a warmongerer? Obama even wanted to cut funding to us while deployed to stop the war which would have stopped us from receiving necessary equipment and supplies. Be truthfull with yourself, you want Obama in office because you want to be a part of history. Well, if you vote for Obama our Worlwide leadership, safety and military superiority would be history too. "
Charlie wrote on Aug 20, 2008 3:07 PM:
" Just because you are a Democrat doesn't mean that you have to support Obama. I am SICK of having the party loyalty thing shoved down my throat. I am an American first. I am a Democrat who doesn't like Obama and I am voting for McCain. I am glad to hear there are other Democrats in Northeastern Pennsylvania considering McCain. "
Albert King wrote on Aug 20, 2008 3:08 PM:
" In November Obama's defeat will go down as the biggest loss/upset in election history for a U.S. president. How can someone lose against a person who supports the current policies with the lowest approval ratings of a president in history, and with the economy so bad, and with low approval ratings of the war? Usually the incumbent party would lose quite badly under these conditions.The Democrat leaders are blind, ignorant or just stupid. I don't think Democrats will be able to recover after this huge loss. It'll be the biggest disappointment to its base. Already Mc Cain is ahead. Obama is looking like he's moving toward being a religious crackpot, after being in that debate, and he appears daily to be getting closer and closer to the conservative side. In general, he looks like he's trying really hard to be McCain, and his speeches look like he's uncertain with all those pauses. His poll numbers are tanking like a lead balloon. He should fire his advisors, because they're following the exact playbook of the past defeats. Soon he's going to be picking one of the most boring people to be his V.P., which won't raise his poll numbers at all. By the end of September Obama and Mc Cain will look like they're the same thing. So, why not vote for the original, and vote for McCain.
After November I will be embarrassed to be known as a Democrat. Thank you Democratic Party for always finding a way to snatch defeat from the easiest victory ever. At the very least I hope you finally throw away your playbook for good, because if it doesn't work in the worst economic times it won't work at all. "
After November I will be embarrassed to be known as a Democrat. Thank you Democratic Party for always finding a way to snatch defeat from the easiest victory ever. At the very least I hope you finally throw away your playbook for good, because if it doesn't work in the worst economic times it won't work at all. "
Sour Grapes wrote on Aug 20, 2008 3:24 PM:
" This is totally a sham if Hillary silently backs McCain. I cant believe what I have read about Rodham, McGregor(Doherty) and Brazil. Remember Mayor, Your up for Election soon. This news doesnt help you at all. I like what you have done for the City so far but to turn your back on a fellow Democrat who is running for President??? Dont be sour just because Hillary lost. We'll see who backs O'bama when he comes to the City down the road. Lets see who is standing on the Podium with him. At that time, the Taxpayers will be the judge of who will be the Next Mayor. You need every vote you can get. "
Alice McGee wrote on Aug 20, 2008 3:36 PM:
" I can't believe the under cover slime going on--these fools would rather see Sen. Obama lose that support him openly. Dirty old politics as usual--typical red-neck kukluckklan of Pa. hillbilly society. "
alic mcgee wrote on Aug 20, 2008 3:45 PM:
" New York hates HRC--would have loved to send her to the whitehouse to get rid of her!!Let the old faithful take her back to be the Governor!! Has she been to work yet as a senator since June. I think she owes New York and the USA some back pay!!Maybe McCain and she could hook up --be his VP he needs a good crook to run with. Why don't you all just pay her stupid debt--she ran up her own credit card--couldn't read the writing on the wall?? "
Think wrote on Aug 20, 2008 3:58 PM:
" To John Paul Telhomme, who wrote on Aug 20, 2008 1:48 PM:
While John McCain sings "bomb, bomb, bomb,... bomb, bomb Iran," don't think that Iran won't be considering bomb, bomb, bomb, ... bomb, bombing US. He lacks diplomacy; he's admittedly stupid; he's a known hothead. I don't think he's presidential and neither does the rest of the world including European countries.
Right now, his campaign is keeping him out of the press. Unfortunately, he's doddering. It's sad, but natural. With his declining mental state, he should consider retirement. If he doesn't, I don't believe you or anyone else will need to get in shape. I don't believe we will have that opportunity.
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To veteran, who wrote on Aug 20, 2008 2:55 PM:
Thank you for your service and your willingness to serve again. I so appreciate living in a land where a bomb dropping on my house never enters my mind.
Now please don't take my words as a criticism of you or anyone else who chooses to defend our country. I just may not express my next thoughts intelligently on this sensitive matter.
However, you're a military insider. Why do you believe you were in Iraq? And how did you feel when you saw the video of George W. Bush making fun of not finding any "Weapons of Mass Destruction" at one of his political fund raisers?
I have family, who, Praise God!, have returned from Iraq. Unfortunately, they are not the men, nor may ever be the same men again. I don't ask them questions, but attentively listen to their accounts of their survival. But they do not discuss anything else. And they are backing Barack Obama. ?? "
While John McCain sings "bomb, bomb, bomb,... bomb, bomb Iran," don't think that Iran won't be considering bomb, bomb, bomb, ... bomb, bombing US. He lacks diplomacy; he's admittedly stupid; he's a known hothead. I don't think he's presidential and neither does the rest of the world including European countries.
Right now, his campaign is keeping him out of the press. Unfortunately, he's doddering. It's sad, but natural. With his declining mental state, he should consider retirement. If he doesn't, I don't believe you or anyone else will need to get in shape. I don't believe we will have that opportunity.
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To veteran, who wrote on Aug 20, 2008 2:55 PM:
Thank you for your service and your willingness to serve again. I so appreciate living in a land where a bomb dropping on my house never enters my mind.
Now please don't take my words as a criticism of you or anyone else who chooses to defend our country. I just may not express my next thoughts intelligently on this sensitive matter.
However, you're a military insider. Why do you believe you were in Iraq? And how did you feel when you saw the video of George W. Bush making fun of not finding any "Weapons of Mass Destruction" at one of his political fund raisers?
I have family, who, Praise God!, have returned from Iraq. Unfortunately, they are not the men, nor may ever be the same men again. I don't ask them questions, but attentively listen to their accounts of their survival. But they do not discuss anything else. And they are backing Barack Obama. ?? "
Mary wrote on Aug 20, 2008 4:17 PM:
" Hilliary or whatever your name is, you need to learn how to spell. It is hard as hell to figure out what you are trying to say. If Clinton won the nomination, there is no way in hell she would be president. We may not support McCain but we sure won't support Hilliary and you can take that to the bank. "
Don wrote on Aug 20, 2008 4:20 PM:
" I was a Hillary voter...but I compare MORE than 1 or 2 issues when deciding who to vote for.
I look at CHARACTER, JUDGEMENT, and LEADERSHIP ability for the highest office in the land. Hillary had it...so does McCain!
Obama is lacking or inexperienced in EVERYTHING I look for. What he has been involved in (if you can even find the record) is neglible or nonexistant as far as any "change". He has NEVER shown an ability to "work across the aisle" (oh yes, except on McCain's bill!) and does not have a record for accomplishing ANYTHING except political points for himself.
Sorry, McCain gets my vote...and he WILL be the next President.
PA will go for McCain because we know the stakes are too high for an amateur! "
I look at CHARACTER, JUDGEMENT, and LEADERSHIP ability for the highest office in the land. Hillary had it...so does McCain!
Obama is lacking or inexperienced in EVERYTHING I look for. What he has been involved in (if you can even find the record) is neglible or nonexistant as far as any "change". He has NEVER shown an ability to "work across the aisle" (oh yes, except on McCain's bill!) and does not have a record for accomplishing ANYTHING except political points for himself.
Sorry, McCain gets my vote...and he WILL be the next President.
PA will go for McCain because we know the stakes are too high for an amateur! "
Mary wrote on Aug 20, 2008 4:41 PM:
" Your governor said it best, PA will go for McCain because you have a lot of racists. Let's call a spade a spade. That's what wrong with this country, people won't be honest. "
Sour Grapes wrote on Aug 20, 2008 4:49 PM:
" Let me ask Don what he thought of John F Kennedy? He was 43 when he became President with very little experience? He was a great President up until his untimely death. Are you afraid of someone young and with a new vision. Are you one of those Democrats who are gonna hide in Fear? Has the Republicans got to you? Have you seen what George Bush has done to this country in the last 7 years? Have you seen what he has done to America's reputation around the world. Come on Don, just say it, you and all the others who dont like Obama are Sour and are Racisit. "
Wood wrote on Aug 20, 2008 4:50 PM:
" Some of you guys are sooo isolated and ignorant, to quote the brilliant Senator "
Linda wrote on Aug 20, 2008 4:58 PM:
" Mrs. McNulty was just on the radio slamming Tony Rodham. She can't get her husband to pay his taxes on time, but thinks Hillary can keep her brother from attending a party? "
Think wrote on Aug 20, 2008 5:11 PM:
" To Don, who wrote on Aug 20, 2008 4:20 PM:
Have you ever worked in a place and outperformed those who worked there longer than you? I have.
Have you ever been promoted to a managerial position over some who've been there longer than you? I have.
Have you ever joined a sports team and played better than some who played years longer than you? I have.
Have you sat in a class and knew more about the subject matter than the instructor of that class? I have.
If you'd ever experienced any of that, you'd realize that just because someone has done something longer, doesn't mean they'll do it better.
Unlike you, I much prefer the "educated," smart, progressive and thoughtful candidate with the fresh ideas. The one who's resourceful, the one who's pragmatic, the who has not yet been tainted by political corruption, and the one who's diplomatic.
Besides, look where all that experience has gotten us. Even easier, look at McCain's record and see where it's gotten us. "
Have you ever worked in a place and outperformed those who worked there longer than you? I have.
Have you ever been promoted to a managerial position over some who've been there longer than you? I have.
Have you ever joined a sports team and played better than some who played years longer than you? I have.
Have you sat in a class and knew more about the subject matter than the instructor of that class? I have.
If you'd ever experienced any of that, you'd realize that just because someone has done something longer, doesn't mean they'll do it better.
Unlike you, I much prefer the "educated," smart, progressive and thoughtful candidate with the fresh ideas. The one who's resourceful, the one who's pragmatic, the who has not yet been tainted by political corruption, and the one who's diplomatic.
Besides, look where all that experience has gotten us. Even easier, look at McCain's record and see where it's gotten us. "
Robin Benson wrote on Aug 20, 2008 5:21 PM:
" To PUMA and the rest of the Hillary Clinton supporter's who intend to protest at the DNC or vote for John McCain.
As a female, a mother, and someone who truly cares about the future of America and our children, let me say this. Why can’t you ignorant heffer’s face the fact that Hillary Clinton lost. It had nothing to do with Barack Obama. The Voter’s, understand VOTER’S voted for BARACK OBAMA. We did not want to have to deal with all of Hillary and Bills old baggage, drama, and scandals. She did not prove to us that she can handle the highest office. She lost because she like many washed up actor's, starting believing her own rave reviews and could hanle the critics and destroyed herself. Now she may have you lonely housewives, fake wanna be femenists and supporter's fooled, but for the rest REAL Democrats, we need to get this country in order without further damaging it for the future of our children. And for the record, and I speak for the rest of us real Democrats, if you want to vote for John McCain, that’s your choice and your uterus. But with or without you, we will go on and win. So go ahead and change party’s, you weren’t true democrats in the first place. "
As a female, a mother, and someone who truly cares about the future of America and our children, let me say this. Why can’t you ignorant heffer’s face the fact that Hillary Clinton lost. It had nothing to do with Barack Obama. The Voter’s, understand VOTER’S voted for BARACK OBAMA. We did not want to have to deal with all of Hillary and Bills old baggage, drama, and scandals. She did not prove to us that she can handle the highest office. She lost because she like many washed up actor's, starting believing her own rave reviews and could hanle the critics and destroyed herself. Now she may have you lonely housewives, fake wanna be femenists and supporter's fooled, but for the rest REAL Democrats, we need to get this country in order without further damaging it for the future of our children. And for the record, and I speak for the rest of us real Democrats, if you want to vote for John McCain, that’s your choice and your uterus. But with or without you, we will go on and win. So go ahead and change party’s, you weren’t true democrats in the first place. "
Joe wrote on Aug 20, 2008 5:33 PM:
" Former NEPA resident now living and working in Albany, NY.
It makes me sick to read how some NEPA Democrats are actually still sour about Hillary Clinton not getting the nomination that they would actually consider voting for McCain.
NEPA Democrats have also stood for what is right ( a hard days work, helping all equally within their community, family, church, and making a better tomorrow for their children). These qualities are all seriously lacking in John McSenile.
These Hillary Supporters are few and far between trust me. They are an embarassment to the Scranton area. Makes me embarassed to call it my home town (where my parents still reside).
They were staunch Hillary supporters in the primary but can see what a vote for McShame will get them.
I am happy to say that both them (in PA)and I here in NY will be standing with the Democratic Party and casting our votes for Barack Obama. "
It makes me sick to read how some NEPA Democrats are actually still sour about Hillary Clinton not getting the nomination that they would actually consider voting for McCain.
NEPA Democrats have also stood for what is right ( a hard days work, helping all equally within their community, family, church, and making a better tomorrow for their children). These qualities are all seriously lacking in John McSenile.
These Hillary Supporters are few and far between trust me. They are an embarassment to the Scranton area. Makes me embarassed to call it my home town (where my parents still reside).
They were staunch Hillary supporters in the primary but can see what a vote for McShame will get them.
I am happy to say that both them (in PA)and I here in NY will be standing with the Democratic Party and casting our votes for Barack Obama. "
Think wrote on Aug 20, 2008 6:17 PM:
" By the way Robin Benson,
who wrote on Aug 20, 2008 5:21 PM:
YOU DO NOT "speak for the rest of us real Democrats." "
who wrote on Aug 20, 2008 5:21 PM:
YOU DO NOT "speak for the rest of us real Democrats." "
HILLARYWILLNEVERWIN wrote on Aug 20, 2008 8:03 PM:
" I will NEVER vote for Hillary Clinton. Under ANY circumstances. If They kidnapped Barack Obama and she won the Democratic Nomination...She would NEVER get the Black vote. PERIOD!!!!
If she can win the Presidency with the "hard-working" (code for white) vote ONLY...then MAYBE she can win. But keep in mind Republicans in wheelchairs and people who have to drag their bodies to the poll will do it to vote against Hillary (Bill) Clinton.
NO MORE CLINTONS>>>EVER!! "
If she can win the Presidency with the "hard-working" (code for white) vote ONLY...then MAYBE she can win. But keep in mind Republicans in wheelchairs and people who have to drag their bodies to the poll will do it to vote against Hillary (Bill) Clinton.
NO MORE CLINTONS>>>EVER!! "
Tim wrote on Aug 20, 2008 8:24 PM:
" ?????? "
Sally wrote on Aug 20, 2008 10:01 PM:
" I hope that the Times writer is a stringer for the associated press and gets this story out nationally. It doesn't surprise me one bit that Doherty(McGregor), Brazil, are involved in this PERCEIVED "turncoat " event. This is their way to dominate the Republican Party to advance Doherty politically in the future. We don't need Mayor Chris Doherty as a Lt. Govenor in PA. The timing of this event couldn't be more perfect, considering the health of Lt Gov. Catherine Baker Knoll. What the group has done to politics in the Scranton area is a disgrace. I hope this is gets out on a National Level. This is a disgrace that they would treat the Democratic endorsed Presidential candidate in this manner. It is a disgrace that they would meet in this style. What a misstep by just one day! When Mayor Christopher A Doherty didn't like the Democratic committee endorsed School Board slate, he endorsed his own. It completely backfired. History always repeats itself somewhere. He does have a lot in common with Hillary Clinton. Both like to spend other people's money. Both ratchet up the debt and expect others to pay it off. Scranton is known as a dying town under this Mayors lack of leadership, vision and plan. I can only imagine how we will be written up now. This is a classic Doherty recipe that flopped. I guess he will now say that he has "No Control" over his family. Many Scrantonians are looking forward to the day that all these "Nobody's" are out of power and seen for what they really are. "
Margaret wrote on Aug 20, 2008 11:04 PM:
" Let's see:
Sis meets with McCain's staffer.
Sis worked for Sherwood.
Sis worked for Santorum.
Chris backed republican school board candidates.
Yeah, he/they are good democrats.
Suckers. "
Sis meets with McCain's staffer.
Sis worked for Sherwood.
Sis worked for Santorum.
Chris backed republican school board candidates.
Yeah, he/they are good democrats.
Suckers. "
Gaby wrote on Aug 20, 2008 11:24 PM:
" Now HRC has over 18 million, when it actually was less than 18 million, but that is typical of them, exaggerating the truth. They need to understand that they lost, but are only thinking of themselves, regardless of the Democratic party. Why would her brother suddenly mingle with the McC affiliates? The Clinton's do not unite the country or the Democratic party. "
Debbie wrote on Aug 21, 2008 12:15 AM:
" why does it always come down to the party? I'm a registered democrat, but.. I will vote for whomever i feel will do the best job, or hope will do the best job! The truth is we never know....None of them are perfect , just better at keeping secrets, and not getting caught...Guess I'll never fully understand why people stick by their party no matter what? "
DUSTIN wrote on Aug 21, 2008 1:25 AM:
" HISTORY WILL PROVE HOW WE MISSED A GOD GIVEN GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY BY NOT HAVING SENATOR CLINTON IN THE WHITE HOUSE. "
Darkly wrote on Aug 21, 2008 1:33 AM:
" Al wrote on Aug 20, 2008 12:36 PM: " How many of those female former Hillary supporters want the Supreme Court to take away their right to choose? How stupid can they be? "
Al, menopause took their right to choose away long ago. Now senility is chipping away at what's left. "
Al, menopause took their right to choose away long ago. Now senility is chipping away at what's left. "
dave wrote on Aug 21, 2008 2:37 AM:
" Linda wrote on Aug 20, 2008 4:58 PM:
" Mrs. McNulty was just on the radio slamming Tony Rodham. She can't get her husband to pay his taxes on time, but thinks Hillary can keep her brother from attending a party? "
Shut up Ginny! "
" Mrs. McNulty was just on the radio slamming Tony Rodham. She can't get her husband to pay his taxes on time, but thinks Hillary can keep her brother from attending a party? "
Shut up Ginny! "
danlricorrai wrote on Aug 21, 2008 2:46 AM:
" who cares about this meeting??
hillary is still a senator from new york..oops..i meant scranton / pennsylvania and brazil is now a republican. maybe louie will hire him.. again, oops!! i forgot!! "
hillary is still a senator from new york..oops..i meant scranton / pennsylvania and brazil is now a republican. maybe louie will hire him.. again, oops!! i forgot!! "
I cant believe this... wrote on Aug 21, 2008 6:05 AM:
" I can't stand the guy (Obama) but I'm a Democrat, with Democratic values. It's one thing to have a few people vote outside our party...but to have some of our big Democratic names in Scranton support the republican candidate, even work for his campaign? This is beyond upsetting. "
Angellight wrote on Aug 21, 2008 7:23 AM:
" Clinton, like Lieberman, acted and talked very much like a Republican during the primary season. It would seem as if big oil and big corporation are Afraid of an Obama Presidency! "
Fae wrote on Aug 21, 2008 10:16 AM:
" I will never ever vote for Obama. IF he ends up being the nominee I will switch party lines and vote for John McCain. The media has shelterd Obama and people don't even know the real Obama.
He is not who you think he is and him and his followers would be horrible for America. "
He is not who you think he is and him and his followers would be horrible for America. "
Sour Grapes wrote on Aug 21, 2008 11:27 AM:
" Fae, just admit it, your a racist. How can you not like a candidate who has not taken a dime from special interest groups??? Thats the Problem with all of the "older Generation" baby boomers. You never think about your kids or grand kids. Its always about yourselves and nothing will change if you vote for McCain. What did you think about JFK when he ran and won the Presidency at a very young age. He was a leader all about change. Everybody who says they are going to switch from Democrat to Republicans are basically racist but wont admit it. Theres alot of silent racist in NEPA. Just look at the Rodham, McGregor, Brazil meeting yesterday. Turncoats!!! "
Teri wrote on Aug 21, 2008 1:52 PM:
" Ahhh 1968 all over again. Snatching defeat from the jaws of Victory. Good going Rodham. "
gingermc wrote on Aug 21, 2008 1:56 PM:
" Talking to Fiorina does NOT mean backing McCain. How naive. What I really find interesting, though, is the way that BO fanatics are so FEARFUL that they feel that it is in their interest to threaten Hillary. And, then they do not even have enough brain cells to realize why people despise their candidate. They are doing BO absolutely no favors by continuining to disparage Hillary. How idiotic and naive, especially at a time when BO is tanking in the polls to McCain. Amazing. "
We Want to Know wrote on Aug 21, 2008 2:48 PM:
" Why was Mcgregor (possibly yourself), Brazil Rodham meeting with Fiorina? What was said? If HR was the candidate ........that meeting with Fiorina would have never happen and you know it. Since you seem to know Ginger, let us all know. Give us all the facts! Wait until Barack O comes out with his VP- Joe Biden, then all the turncoats around here will be back on ship because Joe was a Scranton boy. Also, Polls go up and down all the time. You should know that. Mccain for now is getting the Press, just like Barack got it in the beginning. It will even out...You make it sound like O'bama people have to kiss your feet to get Hillary's vote or ELSE!!! Well you wanna be like that, go ahead but people dont forget! "
jerryt wrote on Aug 21, 2008 2:52 PM:
" This is not suprising, the Clintons are about the same as Mccain. The Clintons need to just go away. "
Sour Grapes wrote on Aug 21, 2008 4:37 PM:
" Ginger, You have it backwards....Obama fans arent threatning HR, its the complete opposite. Now that HR lost, Hillary and Co ( Locally) are basically saying to Obama and crew, you just sit back and let us dictate what happens and if you dont like it, well we just wont back you. And if Obama people get upset over it, HR fanactics will say thats why we despise Obama. So basically, you are using the whole scenario as an excuse to back McCain. Thats a true definition of a Turncoat. You'll all come back once Obama picks Joe B. He's your hometime boy!!! "
Sally wrote on Aug 21, 2008 8:52 PM:
" What a coincidence that the Republican Attorney General of PA Tom Corbett just hired a DOHERTY as an assistant attorney general this week. In my opinion, it looks like he did it for the Democratic vote locally. Just my opinion. I'm a NOBODY too. "
mark wrote on Aug 21, 2008 10:55 PM:
" I have tried to figure out what should be said of this. First, the article is not a BO v. HRC v. JM thing. It is a local issue. Why are these local democrats meeting with a national republican campaign staffer. One is the sister of our democratic mayor?!?!?!?! If they are disgruntled HRC supporters, so be it. But to turn your back on your party because your candidate did not win is just deplorable. By the way, none of them have the political clout to bring home NEPA to McCant anyway. Brazil hasn't backed a winner in years. Doherty (McGregor) is just a housewife after all. (By the way, I know plenty of housewives that take great offense to her comment). And who the heck is Granahan (Kane)?!
To veteran- Thank you so very much for your service and devotion and god bless to you. However, please check history. D's and R's in WW1 and WW2 are not the same D's and R's of today.
To Hillary - please check your spelling. "
To veteran- Thank you so very much for your service and devotion and god bless to you. However, please check history. D's and R's in WW1 and WW2 are not the same D's and R's of today.
To Hillary - please check your spelling. "
Sweetie wrote on Aug 21, 2008 11:27 PM:
" FIRST BOOK OF DEMOCRAT (PSALM 2008-2012)
Obama Is My Shepherd, I Shall Not Want.
He Leadeth Me Beside Still Factories,
He Restoreth My Faith In The Republican Party,
He Guideth Me In The Paths Of Unemployment.
Yea, Though I Walk Through The Valley Of The Bread Line,
I Shall Not Go Hungry.
He Has Anointed My Income With Taxes,
My Expenses Runneth Over,
Surely, Poverty And Hard Living Will Follow
Me All The Days Of My Life.
The Democrats And I Will Live
In a Rented Room forever. "
Obama Is My Shepherd, I Shall Not Want.
He Leadeth Me Beside Still Factories,
He Restoreth My Faith In The Republican Party,
He Guideth Me In The Paths Of Unemployment.
Yea, Though I Walk Through The Valley Of The Bread Line,
I Shall Not Go Hungry.
He Has Anointed My Income With Taxes,
My Expenses Runneth Over,
Surely, Poverty And Hard Living Will Follow
Me All The Days Of My Life.
The Democrats And I Will Live
In a Rented Room forever. "
Sweetie wrote on Aug 21, 2008 11:47 PM:
" Jeremiah Wright
Barack Obama, a candidate for the Democratic nomination for President, first met Wright and joined his church in the 1980s, while he was working as a community organizer in Chicago before attending Harvard Law School. Wright officiated at the wedding ceremony of Barack and Michelle Obama, as well as their children's baptism. The title of Obama's memoir, The Audacity of Hope, was inspired by one of Wright's sermons.
Wright was scheduled to give the public invocation before Obama's presidential announcement, but Obama withdrew the invitation the night before the event. Wright wrote a rebuttal letter to the editor disputing the characterization of the account as reported in an article in The New York Times.
In 2007 Wright was appointed to Barack Obama's African American Religious Leadership Committee, a group of over 170 national black religious leaders who supported Obama's bid for the Democratic nomination; however, it was announced in March 2008 that Wright was no longer serving as a member of this group.
On May 31, 2008, Obama announced that he had resigned from his membership in the Trinity United Church of Christ, of which Wright had previously served as pastor. "
Barack Obama, a candidate for the Democratic nomination for President, first met Wright and joined his church in the 1980s, while he was working as a community organizer in Chicago before attending Harvard Law School. Wright officiated at the wedding ceremony of Barack and Michelle Obama, as well as their children's baptism. The title of Obama's memoir, The Audacity of Hope, was inspired by one of Wright's sermons.
Wright was scheduled to give the public invocation before Obama's presidential announcement, but Obama withdrew the invitation the night before the event. Wright wrote a rebuttal letter to the editor disputing the characterization of the account as reported in an article in The New York Times.
In 2007 Wright was appointed to Barack Obama's African American Religious Leadership Committee, a group of over 170 national black religious leaders who supported Obama's bid for the Democratic nomination; however, it was announced in March 2008 that Wright was no longer serving as a member of this group.
On May 31, 2008, Obama announced that he had resigned from his membership in the Trinity United Church of Christ, of which Wright had previously served as pastor. "
Texas independent wrote on Aug 22, 2008 1:39 PM:
" I was disappointed to read this article. I hate that we are still referring to each other as Obama or HRC supporters or slurs of these labels. It has been months. We should be Dems not thems. There's no Romney Republicans for goodness sake. This would be a nothing story if we saw Sen Hillary stumpping with passion. Her speeches are mechanical and passionless. Bill leaves me speechless. And her key serrogates are employed by FOX! She even referred to Obama as her opponent while stumping in Florida this week (oops.. paging Dr. Freud). These things may be circumstantial evidence and innocent in isolation, but all of them together point to something more troubling. I am crazy enough to think that Obama will win without all of the Clinton's support, but he can blow McCain away with their help. If she can not help, then please at least do no harm. The fact is Mc Cain has not overtaken Obama in the national polls in 2 months ( a life time in politics). Even the narrowing polls was not Mc Cain coming up, but Obama coming down. He has always gone down on Fridays anyway.
He showed his worse showing the week. Yes he needs to fight harder and smarter. Yes I'm frustrated that McCain has constantly placed his neck on the chopping block without receiving fatal blows, but I believe that the Obama campaign that beat THE Clintons can beat Mr. noun verb and POW.
People say they vote on issues, but people really vote their heart. They vote on who they perceive a person to be. So some Hillary Dems will hate Obama all their days inventing greivances in their minds or blaming the sins of the media on him or scolding him for not coming to the defense of a woman (which is sexist if you think about it). Others would have never voted for him because they are the same 10% of Democrats that always vote Republican in the Fall. The demographics of those that who have done so in previous elections (White, low income working class) were the ones that supported Hillary in large part. So that leaves those who are hurt enough to look in McCain's way, but has not crossed over. If he can win these, His base will expand. If Obama win 6% of the nation come November, pollsters say that it will be an electoral land slide. Since BO is Black I would prefer a bigger gap to easily win the electoral college. For those supporting Obama let's try to get at least one new voter to the polls to make up for the Hillary vote that will never come. They need their to time heal or whatever, but let's not let this time pass us by.
Obama 08 "
He showed his worse showing the week. Yes he needs to fight harder and smarter. Yes I'm frustrated that McCain has constantly placed his neck on the chopping block without receiving fatal blows, but I believe that the Obama campaign that beat THE Clintons can beat Mr. noun verb and POW.
People say they vote on issues, but people really vote their heart. They vote on who they perceive a person to be. So some Hillary Dems will hate Obama all their days inventing greivances in their minds or blaming the sins of the media on him or scolding him for not coming to the defense of a woman (which is sexist if you think about it). Others would have never voted for him because they are the same 10% of Democrats that always vote Republican in the Fall. The demographics of those that who have done so in previous elections (White, low income working class) were the ones that supported Hillary in large part. So that leaves those who are hurt enough to look in McCain's way, but has not crossed over. If he can win these, His base will expand. If Obama win 6% of the nation come November, pollsters say that it will be an electoral land slide. Since BO is Black I would prefer a bigger gap to easily win the electoral college. For those supporting Obama let's try to get at least one new voter to the polls to make up for the Hillary vote that will never come. They need their to time heal or whatever, but let's not let this time pass us by.
Obama 08 "
NC_tarheelstate wrote on Sep 1, 2008 9:12 PM:
" Obviously, they want Obama defeated so Hillary can run in 2012. What sore losers! I guess I shouldn't be surprised. "