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13 things that do not make sense

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1 The placebo effect

Don't try this at home. Several times a day, for several days, you induce pain in someone. You control the pain with morphine until the final day of the experiment, when you replace the morphine with saline solution. Guess what? The saline takes the pain away.

This is the placebo effect: somehow, sometimes, a whole lot of nothing can be very powerful. Except it's not quite nothing. When Fabrizio Benedetti of the University of Turin in Italy carried out the above experiment, he added a final twist by adding naloxone, a drug that blocks the effects of morphine, to the saline. The shocking result? The pain-relieving power of saline solution disappeared.

So what is going on? Doctors have known about the placebo effect for decades, and the naloxone result seems to show that the placebo effect is somehow biochemical. But apart from that, we simply don't know.

Benedetti has since shown that a saline placebo can also reduce tremors and muscle stiffness in people with Parkinson's disease. He and his team measured the activity of neurons in the patients' brains as they administered the saline. They found that individual neurons in the subthalamic nucleus (a common target for surgical attempts to relieve Parkinson's symptoms) began to fire less often when the saline was given, and with fewer "bursts" of firing - another feature associated with Parkinson's. The neuron activity decreased at the same time as the symptoms improved: the saline was definitely doing something.

We have a lot to learn about what is happening here, Benedetti says, but one thing is clear: the mind can affect the body's biochemistry. "The relationship between expectation and therapeutic outcome is a wonderful model to understand mind-body interaction," he says. Researchers now need to identify when and where placebo works. There may be diseases in which it has no effect. There may be a common mechanism in different illnesses. As yet, we just don't know.

2 The horizon problem

OUR universe appears to be unfathomably uniform. Look across space from one edge of the visible universe to the other, and you'll see that the microwave background radiation filling the cosmos is at the same temperature everywhere. That may not seem surprising until you consider that the two edges are nearly 28 billion light years apart and our universe is only 14 billion years old.

Nothing can travel faster than the speed of light, so there is no way heat radiation could have travelled between the two horizons to even out the hot and cold spots created in the big bang and leave the thermal equilibrium we see now.

This "horizon problem" is a big headache for cosmologists, so big that they have come up with some pretty wild solutions. "Inflation", for example.

You can solve the horizon problem by having the universe expand ultra-fast for a time, just after the big bang, blowing up by a factor of 1050 in 10-33 seconds. But is that just wishful thinking? "Inflation would be an explanation if it occurred," says University of Cambridge astronomer Martin Rees. The trouble is that no one knows what could have made that happen, but see Inside inflation: after the big bang.

So, in effect, inflation solves one mystery only to invoke another. A variation in the speed of light could also solve the horizon problem - but this too is impotent in the face of the question "why?" In scientific terms, the uniform temperature of the background radiation remains an anomaly.

A variation in the speed of light could solve the problem, but this too is impotent in the face of the question 'why?'

3 Ultra-energetic cosmic rays

FOR more than a decade, physicists in Japan have been seeing cosmic rays that should not exist. Cosmic rays are particles - mostly protons but sometimes heavy atomic nuclei - that travel through the universe at close to the speed of light. Some cosmic rays detected on Earth are produced in violent events such as supernovae, but we still don't know the origins of the highest-energy particles, which are the most energetic particles ever seen in nature. But that's not the real mystery.

As cosmic-ray particles travel through space, they lose energy in collisions with the low-energy photons that pervade the universe, such as those of the cosmic microwave background radiation. Einstein's special theory of relativity dictates that any cosmic rays reaching Earth from a source outside our galaxy will have suffered so many energy-shedding collisions that their maximum possible energy is 5 × 1019 electronvolts. This is known as the Greisen-Zatsepin-Kuzmin limit.

Over the past decade, however, the University of Tokyo's Akeno Giant Air Shower Array - 111 particle detectors spread out over 100 square kilometres - has detected several cosmic rays above the GZK limit. In theory, they can only have come from within our galaxy, avoiding an energy-sapping journey across the cosmos. However, astronomers can find no source for these cosmic rays in our galaxy. So what is going on?

One possibility is that there is something wrong with the Akeno results. Another is that Einstein was wrong. His special theory of relativity says that space is the same in all directions, but what if particles found it easier to move in certain directions? Then the cosmic rays could retain more of their energy, allowing them to beat the GZK limit.

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#4: Belfast Homeopathy Results

Sun Oct 21 06:47:01 BST 2007 by Eelis

This one doesn't deserve to be in the list.

Hardly any scientist takes homeopathy seriously, let alone worries about it "not making sense". The study mentioned is just one out of thousands, and a particularly disreputable one at that. Efforts to independently replicate its results have failed.

If homeopathy qualifies for the list, then so should the biblical story of creation: like homeopathy it too doesn't make sense, but like homeopathy it isn't taken seriously by the majority of scientific community to begin with either.

#4: Belfast Homeopathy Results

Sun Oct 21 10:06:06 BST 2007 by Supergravity

Agreed. Homeopathy should not be included on this list, certainly not due to a researcher or group of researchers 'being convinced' while so much evidence showing the clear falsehood of homeopathic claims exists.

#4: Belfast Homeopathy Results

Sun Oct 21 11:46:57 BST 2007 by Horsey

In fact a TV series in the UK (Horizon) set out to confirm/debunk the results. From memory there was absolutely NO effect. Tests using the homeopthy and the control results were identical! Their conclusion was that the method originally used was flawed, giving rise to the orginal result.

#4: Belfast Homeopathy Results

Tue Oct 21 18:23:22 BST 2008 by Paul H.

The advantage of homeopathic medicines are that they have no side effects, and they aren't harmful (unless, of course, they're substituted for effective medicine.) This might still mean they're worthless, except for the possible placebo effect they might have. Homeopathic remedies can be used without fear of drug interaction, so can be used in conjunction with any other treatment. If a patient can feel some relief due to the placebo effect of homeopathic remedies, then I say by all means use them--however, since they are basically water, they should not cost more than ordinary drinking water.

#4: Belfast Homeopathy Results

Sun Oct 21 17:22:15 BST 2007 by Tee

Homeopathy is coming to get you! Booo!

- its going to turn out to be real and you will wake up at night with the sweats in fear of it and its voodoo like pixie dust magic spells.

You guys should unclench the diamond reactors in your rear and open your minds a bit to the possible truth in something we 'might' not fully understand yet.

Im no homeopath - but If you can claim to understand fully - the physics of water and its possible interactions with any molecule then you must be smarter than anyone I know - and more accurate than any molecular simulation I know. ( which would give you absolute rights to have a diamond reactor in the rear )

I for one hope this one turns out to be true - just so I can watch you flop around on the ground from disgust.

Haha....flop flop flop.

#4: Belfast Homeopathy Results

Sun Oct 21 18:32:30 BST 2007 by Eelis

"You guys should unclench the diamond reactors in your rear and open your minds a bit to the possible truth in something we 'might' not fully understand yet."

You misrepresent the reason why we reject homeopathy (this is called a Straw Man argument). Science thrives on the things we do not yet understand. None of us claim to know everything. The reason we reject homeopathy is not that we don't see how it would work, but that it has been impossible to reliably reproduce its alleged effect.

"Im no homeopath - but If you can claim to understand fully - the physics of water and its possible interactions with any molecule then you must be smarter than anyone I know - and more accurate than any molecular simulation I know."

You make the mistake of assuming that the burden of proof lies upon the skeptic instead of the claimant. Russell's teapot (see Wikipedia) is an ad absurdum refutation of this notion.

#4: Belfast Homeopathy Results

Tue Dec 18 13:50:42 GMT 2007 by Inhahe

The burden-of-proof meta-argument is just an excuse people use to pretend that they can make their case without having to defend it. Invoking formal fallacies is usually a substitute for thinking. It makes no sense to make rules about who has the burden of proof in an argument. You want to know who has the burden of proof? The claimant, like you said. Only you are the claimant, since you claimed that homeopathy doesn't work. That's a claim. Yes, you're the 'skeptic', but you can be skeptical that the Earth is round, so it's really not about who's the skeptic, per se. Also, whether a fact is phrased in a positive frame (is, does) or a negative frame (is not, does not) is incidental and often interchangeable. And yes, the people who are claiming homeopathy works are also claimants. Imagine that, two sides both having the burden of proof. The burden of proof really isn't even about who's making the claim; it's about who feels the necessity to convince the other of their position. Think about it.

Oh and I found tee's characterizations to be very astute and funny. It's called teasing. Remove the diamond reactors from your rectums and maybe it will broaden your horizons. ;) People rarely know or even look into what their real emotional motivations for arguing/believing something are

#4: Belfast Homeopathy Results

Thu May 22 06:56:01 BST 2008 by Rb Rambler

I find the challenge about the "right" of homeopathy to be included in this forum a bit ironic, especially given the challengers' tacit acceptance of Benedetti's work in another article in the forum.

The challengers are saying that homeopathy has been debunked and disproved, and the article itself includes the comment "no homeopathic remedy has ever been shown to work in a large randomised placebo-controlled clinical trial".

But... These were placebo-controlled trials.

Further up the web page, under the title "The placebo effect", Benedetti's work showing that placebos can't be trusted it presented. That article ends with the quote "Researchers now need to identify when and where placebo works. There may be diseases in which it has no effect. There may be a common mechanism in different illnesses. As yet, we just don't know."

So if placebos can't be relied upon, how can they be used to prove/disprove homeopathy? Don't we need to solve this 'placebo problem' before we can trust placebos to prove or disprove anything at all, including homeopathy?

#4: Belfast Homeopathy Results

Sat Aug 09 21:55:29 BST 2008 by I Am The Alpha And The Omega. The Beginning And The End.

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#4: Belfast Homeopathy Results

Mon Oct 22 23:20:29 BST 2007 by Sandee

When I was pregnant, my blood tests showed that I had about half of the red blood cell count that a pregnant woman my age should have. They immediately began testing me for lupus, cancer, etc - they acted as though the news was grave - but the tests showed nothing. They said that they were surprised that I had energy to get out of bed. I was extremely tired all the time, but had always been that way. They said that since they couldn't figure out what was wrong that upon the birth of my child - the child and I would both have to have immediate blood transfusions. And then they left it at that.

I worked at a health food store at the time and described my problem to a regular customer of ours, she recommended a homeopathic remedy of cell salts called "Bioplasma". A bottle of 500 tablets cost $5.99. Within 5 minutes of my first dose, my skin color became healthier and I was full of energy - my next blood test (a week later) revealed the normal amount of red blood cells. Neither me or my son had to have the transfusion and everything has been great since. I will never underestimate the power of homeopathic remedies.

#4: Belfast Homeopathy Results

Tue Oct 23 02:34:52 BST 2007 by Matthew

Please see #1, The placebo effect.

#4: Belfast Homeopathy Results

Tue Nov 27 01:08:48 GMT 2007 by Marco Orozco

She wasnt exactly in a controlled repetitive experiment though, or was she? Does that not disprove the possibility of it being a placebo-like effect?

Saludos,

Mexico

#4: Belfast Homeopathy Results

Thu Nov 29 17:59:47 GMT 2007 by Orbis

I was extremely skeptical of homeopathy. Then my nateuropath prescribed something called 'Sepia' for irregular periods. I immediately took this and it induced my period. Then the following month I took it and sure enough it induced my period. For a skeptic like myself, who was skeptical of homeopathy although not to the point of being a skeptic that I didn't think there wasn't a small possibility that it would work, I don't think one can attribute the effects of homeopathy solely to the placebo effect

#4: Belfast Homeopathy Results

Thu Nov 29 18:01:02 GMT 2007 by Orbis

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#4: Belfast Homeopathy Results

Fri Nov 09 17:51:13 GMT 2007 by Salome

We have give cats. As it turns out, allergies to cats are more and more common. In fact, I myself have a cat allergy. I have tried numerous allergy medicines, both over the counter and prescription, with varying success, but always with some kind of side effects. Finally I found a homeopathic remedy targeted specifically at animal dander. I always have some at home now because it works very well with no side effects. One of our friends is also very allergic to cats. Whenever he would come to visit, he would take allergy medicine and sudafed, but as soon as he got to our house, he he would start to sneeze and have a runny nose. This happened a number of times and finally I thought to ask him if he would try the homeopathic remedy. He did and within minutes he had comepletely stopped having allergy symptoms. He was so impressed that he asked if he could copy the label information so that he could buy it for himself. I can't explain it, of course, but I saw it happen.

#4: Belfast Homeopathy Results

Thu Nov 29 21:38:42 GMT 2007 by Wim Joosten

/Off-topic/Salome, would you care to name the product? My daughter might benefit from it /Topic/

#4: Belfast Homeopathy Results

Tue Apr 22 13:03:26 BST 2008 by Linda

Yes, I do need the name of the homeopathic remedy and where it can be bought if Salome would care to give it.

#4: Belfast Homeopathy Results

Mon Aug 18 21:59:45 BST 2008 by Eddie

Red On - Apply directly to red blood cells!

Red On - Apply directly to red blood cells!

Red On - Apply directly to red blood cells!

#4: Belfast Homeopathy Results

Thu Dec 13 08:27:01 GMT 2007 by Dr. Oliver Y.

The Homeopathy Results deserve to be on this list if the experiment was conducted properly--most readers have no way of determining this factor. 23 years ago, I met my uncle who had 4 NIH grants at that one time, and he had served on NIH committees to determine how grants would be awarded. He stated to me that it was ubiquitous--the validity of the placebo effect across a myriad of seemingly unsupportable protocols. This example is but one of many. See the Yale wart study, though the sample size was minuscule. P.s. My uncle runs an institute, and was on Time magazine's "America's Top Scientists" cover article, not that means anything

Energy

Sun Oct 21 11:57:31 BST 2007 by Bob Dobbs

The DoE is not interested in the cheap fusion style projects because they do not support the economic system. They support huge expensive projects because they use money and have a potential to be useful. A $30 billion fusion reactor will support the central banks. Watercars won't.

Energy

Tue Jan 22 11:34:44 GMT 2008 by Edward Kerr

Considering that "energy" is the most important issue that mankind faces, not only in the present political sense but also in our future survival sense, I found your referral to central banks to be most interesting. Students of our present disastrous situation see the fingerprints of the central banks all over it. Water as a fuel (or more accurately the hydrogen in water) will surely be part of any successful solution to our/the energy problem. The Luddites who are presently running the (oil) show are surely THE problem as it exists today. Sadly, "water cars" would actually be of great benefit, not only to humanity but to the central banks as well, but it appears that they are too dim witted to see that truth. Ultimately, it is a "political" problem. Too bad that some of the great minds that ponder "dark matter", "the microwave horizon", etc seem unable to "work" on this problem.

Energy

Mon Aug 18 20:22:38 BST 2008 by Zach

"Water as fuel" will never really exist. Water has been, and likely will be, just a carrier of energy. It makes me sick to the stomach to see so many people buying into this "hydrogen" ideal. The truth of the matter is, the engery made today for most hydrogen powered vehicles is generated in coal burning plants. In the end, you waste more energy and pollute more than just burning gas. CO2 is also not a pollutent (while we are talking about politics). I would much rather have the the 3% of the 1% of the atmosphere filled with CO2, than the heavy metals and other hazardous materials, contained in batteries, that we will inevitably need for going more than 100 miles away from home.

Energy

Mon Aug 25 18:00:05 BST 2008 by Peter

Most if not all of the practical battery technologies in use for electric and hybrid vehicles do not contain any heavy metals and heavy metal containing batteries do not release those metals into the enviroment if recycled. Let's not be so quick to go melting the ice caps and flooding coastal properties because of your oil lust and nearsightedness.

Energy

Tue Oct 21 18:33:02 BST 2008 by Paul H.

Actually, CO2 is a pollutant when it comes from fossil fuels, because it adds to the amount of greenhouse gases in the air. When the C02 comes from burning plant fuels such as biodiesel, it's simply releasing CO2 that those plants captured from the air--which would happen naturally anyway as the plants decayed.

Error?

Sun Oct 21 12:58:04 BST 2007 by Kailash Nadh

<b>10 The Kuiper cliff</b>

<i> NASA's New Horizons probe, which will head out to Pluto and the Kuiper belt, is scheduled for launch in January 2006</i>

'is scheduled' for launch in Jan 2006?

Error?

Sun Oct 21 14:54:49 BST 2007 by Mike Green

Note the date of the article:

From issue 2491 of New Scientist magazine, 19 March 2005, page 30

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